You have to understand. I've know so many people that have died of drug overdoses and suicide. It's only natural for me to hate drugs. The depression of those losses still stings. My own brother was killed by the mafia (or whatever you call them) because of drug related problems. It's hard to see all this **** going on.

I can't say I've lost any loved ones to substance abuse, but I can definitely say I've seen a lot of them become people I don't understand or relate to anymore, which is difficult in its own right.

If I'm being honest, I don't think your concerns and distastes are valid in a thread about simple dope, if indeed those painful experiences and fears are where your attitude is stemming from.

That's why I see a therapist. :o:

That's probably for the best, because your own biases are hurting you more than they are "fighting the good fight" or what have you.

Going back to the original question....

If I spend money on an album the last thing I want to do is to have to spend even more money getting high just to make the damn thing sound any better.

You're the musician YOU make it sound better before you release the fucking thing.

Ok now I understand where you're coming from and sorry you've had to deal with all of that. That's the ugly side of drugs and that's certainly the part I hate about them. I've never lost friends or family to drugs although one of my close friends did go off the rails for a while. But it was personal problems and depression that caused him to turn to drugs not the other way around.

No one has ever overdosed on weed though, it's impossible and you'll fall asleep before you've smoked too much. But as regards more serious drugs I can certainly understand your hate for them.

I phrased the question wrong. Of course weed doesn't cause an actual change in the music. But I think it does make it more enjoyable.

I don't do anytihing beyond weed, but I can honestly tell you that, if anything, I just find the experience all the more pointless.

Much rather get drunk and jump around a bit.

We all posses bodily senses don't we? Smell, Taste, Touch, Hearing and Sight. Drugs of many different sorts enhance these senses while intoxicated by them.

I do believe that certain things can be used in moderation with possible benefit.

But so many let the drug lead them instead.

It can become a lethal combination, if history tells us anything.

I think you are contradicting yourself. If you want us to believe that you are helpful and sympathetic, it doesn't help if you say in the same post that you do whatever you want and you won't listen to anyone who tries to stop you.

eraser contradicting himself!!! Don`t be silly now:nono:

He reminds me of The Virgin in a way.

Ahhhhhh The Virgin. The difference is though, The Virgin didn`t really believe anything he was saying, whereas this geezer does and that`s whats worrying.

I thought he was serious in his "coming out thread". That was what made it so funny!

This is true. But Marijuana is the least harmful drug. It's pretty hard to put "lethal" and "Marijuana" in the same sentence. Unless you're saying "Man, this is some lethal bud, I'm so stoned." :laughing:

It does make me pretty lazy sometimes. For me that's the one downside.

Maybe because you are getting too stoned. :laughing:

Hahaha. It's not like we're saying "yeah man that last Phish record took me four bowls before I stopped caring that Trey Anastasio wasn't making any sense on it."

Weed definitely doesn't diminish your ability to make distinctions in personal preference. It just amplifies the response you get from those stimuli.

I'm not really experienced in smoking weed. I've smoked some and listened to music at the same time. I don't really remember perceiving music any differently when being high. The only thing that comes to my mind is one afternoon when we layed in a park with my friend and her friends last summer. We smoked some weed and listened to some classic motown recordings and I really enjoyed the music. I don't think the weed affected my listening. I just had genuinely nice time and I was really happy which made the music even more enjoyable to listen to.

the best albums sound like you're already on drugs, anyway

i don't think so - he has conviction that he hates Nirvana and Nirvana is the epitome of "metal" and that Beyonce is light years ahead of any other recording artist

it's just he seemed to be having "problems" with the language

And problems with culture. Nirvana; epitome of metal? That's a good one.

Oh god, you should have joined this forum about a week ago. Then that would have looked OK.

Smoking kush makes music better. I walked home blazed listening to Sleigh Bells and I could hear the beats pulsing inside of me. It was great. Plain old regular pot doesn't really do much though. If there's music on, I don't really care.

In MY opinion, it's the best way to listen to music. Whenever I get a new album or want to look for some new music, I smoke herb just before. What it does for me is enhance the listening experience in just about every way possible. When I am high, my senses become enhanced, and one of things cannabis does for me is let me be in a free state of mind. I find a comfortable place where I feel relaxed and I just empty my mind, sit on my couch, close my eyes, and get lost in the music. I'd say about 80% of my favorite albums were in result of having such a good experience with them while stoned.

I ate a dro brownie today, I was blazed for about 5 hours. The Allman Brothers were sounding so damn good. Especially the 2 drummers. :drummer:

I saw someone smoking weed in the toilets today. Why would you do that?

Haha what? What toilets?

If you take a hit and then blow it into the toilet as you're flushing it, the smoke gets sucked down.

Actually I just googled that to see if I was right, and I totally wasn't.

A spoof is seriously the way to go for indoor, undetected smoking. It doesn't work with joints, though, because the smoke from the j is still coming out. It works best if you use a bowl, and edge it so that it's not totally torched.

But seriously. Spoofs are miraculous things.

shit is better with a shit

Or you can just ghosty the hit until there's no smoke to blow out

HA! Check out your post count.

But yes, that can work sometimes. I don't trust myself not to have a rare coughing fit, though, so the spoof comes in super handy.

I tried using a sploof with a bong, it didn't work for ****. Half the house reeked, but you have to pack snappers in order for it to somewhat work.

My college. You've got to be pretty desperate to take weed into college and smoke in a place people visit every couple of minutes.

Does smoking Marijuana make music better?

lol smoking marijuana makes a LOT of things better!!

TOP 5 THINGS THAT WEED MAKES BETTER
1. music
2.sex
3. school
4. family
5. friends

i disagree:-

1. music - mood
2. sex - Sexy Hexy (Artane)
3. school - baggy trousers
4. family - bickering
5. friends - b!tching about other friends who are not there

1. weed does set the mood
2.sex- depending on who ur having it with... weed can either make them appealing or at least make things tolerable and that depends on how bad it is.
3.school- makes teachers less annoying
4.family- makes the bickering less irritating
5.friends- makes their b!tching about other friends who are not there
less :banghead: <--- sh!tty

uh, i wouldn't want to be in a peaceful quasi-ecstatic mood all the time when I listen to music - i sometimes want to be angry so's I can hear angry music, depressed for sad bastard music and alert when i'm trying catch all the notes in jazz

the other things you've mentioned are basically "escapes" - you have to face it sober sooner or later

You're right. I do think sobriety is the best way to go. I have no problem with sober people. My problem lies with the people who drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes and still think that Marijuana is bad. If Marijuana is illegal, then alcohol and tobacco should be as well, and that's what angers me the most.

You see a anti-Marijuana commercial on TV, then the next commercial you see is a beer advertisement that completely glorifies the ****. It's just not right. :banghead:

I don't know why, but lately I've noticed that Gogol Bordello is my absolute favorite thing to listen to stoned. I really enjoy it sober, but for some reason, it's been exactly what I've wanted to hear stoned lately.