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Old 11-06-2011, 10:43 AM   #171 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:44 AM   #172 (permalink)
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How on earth did this discussion get where it is now?
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:46 AM   #173 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:47 AM   #174 (permalink)
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:02 AM   #175 (permalink)
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To prove that The Beatles contributed to the downfall of American culture, you would need to demonstrate the following:
  1. That American culture is, in fact, worse than it was before the Beatles "invaded".
  2. A causal link between the Beatles and the alleged decline of American culture.
So far you have said nothing that indicates that either one of these things are true.
You take a look at the young adults in America and become proud? I don't know if you've been paying attention but the young adults in America are so brain washed and cowardly that a crowd of more than 20 students stood and watched a girl get raped outside of school without even calling the police.

I shouldn't even have to go there. Take a look around you and see the corruption. What has our culture become? A lazy, selfish, complacent bunch who treat their parents with absolute disrespect.

I don't know where you come from but I am from Dallas, Texas. I've dealt with young adults time and time again and have seen them go through unnecessary trials that were brought on to them by ignorant parents who threw any chance they had of being a good parent when they lived a life of stupidity when they were young themselves. Much of their influences were music, drugs, cowardice and mental weakness.

I've dealt with a family that lost 5 family members in the span of 2 years due to drugs. I've dealt with teenage girls who's parents forced them to live a life of isolation to the point of insanity. I've dealt with 12 year old girls who gave their body to any and everyone because their worthless father ran out on them and their mother spent her time whoring herself to the world.

I've dealt with gangsters, mobsters and many other sorts of people.

Until you've seen the distraught I have seen you will not understand my passion against mediocrity and the likes.
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That's not just America mate, that's life.
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That's not just America mate, that's life.
And mediocre lyrics such as you find with the Beatles and other influences make things even worse. This is not hard to see. I've talked to many many adults that lived in those times and they have told me of their stupidity when they were young. Music has a great influence on people. The ultimate proof is to simply look around. And although music isn't the sole source of this mediocrity it plays a large part.
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:19 AM   #178 (permalink)
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You take a look at the young adults in America and become proud? I don't know if you've been paying attention but the young adults in America are so brain washed and cowardly that a crowd of more than 20 students stood and watched a girl get raped outside of school without even calling the police.

I shouldn't even have to go there. Take a look around you and see the corruption. What has our culture become? A lazy, selfish, complacent bunch who treat their parents with absolute disrespect.

I don't know where you come from but I am from Dallas, Texas. I've dealt with young adults time and time again and have seen them go through unnecessary trials that were brought on to them by ignorant parents who threw any chance they had of being a good parent when they lived a life of stupidity when they were young themselves. Much of their influences were music, drugs, cowardice and mental weakness.

I've dealt with a family that lost 5 family members in the span of 2 years due to drugs. I've dealt with teenage girls who's parents forced them to live a life of isolation to the point of insanity. I've dealt with 12 year old girls who gave their body to any and everyone because their worthless father ran out on them and their mother spent her time whoring herself to the world.

I've dealt with gangsters, mobsters and many other sorts of people.

Until you've seen the distraught I have seen you will not understand my passion against mediocrity and the likes.
So your argument is that, prior to the Beatles coming to America, there was no corruption, no laziness, no selfishness, no bad parents, no stupidity, no drugs, no prostitution, no organized crime?

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So your argument is that, prior to the Beatles coming to America, there was no corruption, no laziness, no selfishness, no bad parents, no stupidity, no drugs, no prostitution, no organized crime?

My argument is that mediocrity worsens the situation. If you cannot see the difference between then (or what could have been) and now maybe you should take another look. And this is no laughing matter. Maybe one day when you have to take the burden of someone else on your back you'll understand the frustration of continuous mediocrity and its acceptance.
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:24 AM   #180 (permalink)
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And mediocre lyrics such as you find with the Beatles and other influences make things even worse. This is not hard to see. I've talked to many many adults that lived in those times and they have told me of their stupidity when they were young. Music has a great influence on people. The ultimate proof is to simply look around. And although music isn't the sole source of this mediocrity it plays a large part.
I'm not going to pretend that I've read this entire topic. I'm just baffled by what I read on the last pages.
Am I right in saying that you are actually trying to tell us that people are doing stupid things because of bands like the beatles, with mediocre lyrics? I mean, really? Don't you think that, if people are stupid enough to make music do them stupid things, they were stupid enough to do stupid things anyhow?
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