eraser.time206

You don't seem to get the point. Marketing=sells. Because of this companies will always pick easy targets for money. This has corrupted the music industry. Even though the British Invasion wasn't solely responsible it was a part of it. I have no favoritism for Frank Zappa. I rarely listen to him but I realize that he isn't as appreciated as he should be cause of the corruption of the music industry. He himself made a speech about this.

I'm writing just to state opinion the same way you and others are. You see from your perspective of things but from my own perspective I find many of you stubborn of something very obvious. How anyone can deny that marketing plays an absolute large role in sells is beyond me.

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eraser.time206

I find the English language to be dull and ordinary.

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jackhammer

Well the English get stick for lots and lots of things but I think our language is rather jolly old chap. 600,000 + words and the international language for travel, commerce and the united nations. Not bad for a crappy little island methinks.

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Jedey

Are you trying to say marketing = sales?

Or Marketing sails?

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Sell-verb
Sail-verb
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Cell-Small room in a prison for silly people like you

Hopefully, selecting the correct one will help you to get the point across correctly.

Based on what write, its certainly not your strong point.

Anyway back to matters at hand, I find the fact that you`ve mentioned that you hardly know the music of Zappa staggering!!! Considering that HE has formed the basis of your argument. How an earth can you even champion an artist whose music you hardly know, I doubt you even know anything much about Zappa at all and what motivated and drove the man etc. As said, he marketed himself, believed in total artistic control and was his own man in every sense.

The basis of your argument has been that the British music invasion of the 1960s ruined US culture, their lyrics most notably those of the Beatles were garbage but despite all that you think bands like the Beatles were great! Now that`s a complete oxymoron.

Then on the other hand, you champion an artist like Zappa, who you think should have achieved the same level of popular success as the Beatles, despite the fact he didn`t play popular music. You then state that you hardly know Zappa, which to be fair is probably about the only correct thing you`ve said on this complete thread. BTW, if you`re thinking about taking a crash course in Zappa to dig out some marketable stuff don`t bother, as his discography is huge and experimental.

Lets be honest Eraser, you`re in a hole...........just do the decent thing and fade away and then come back when you`ve got something sensible to say.

People on the forum like debate as the forum would be boring without it, but if you`re going to spurt this continual nonsense.............

eraser.time206

I said I rarely listen to him. For me that's 5-6 times a year. I've listened to his music enough. If you read my posts correctly I never gave the British Invasion sole responsibility for ruining American culture. I do however believe they had a lot to do with it. It seems many of you are not even reading my posts correctly. This leads you to respond with comments that don't even further the conversation. Instead we're in a circle.

The point isn't that Zappa should have had a big company to market him. The point is that if pop bands weren't filling the airwaves more people would be able to appreciate his work.

By the way a band can be great and have garbage lyrics. Most lyrics are not even listened to closely. The majority of people judge music based on actual music excluding the lyrics.

I don't even see why you comment. What I'm saying makes sense. If the radio wasn't filled with pop music it would be filled with other music. If marketers targeted talented artists more often then people would look for those artists and other similar artists.

The Beatles played a huge role in bringing down culture. Obviously they don't fill the % but still they played a role. Music plays a big role. The music today is not furthering American culture. Justin Beiber, Lady GaGa, Lil Wayne and the likes play big roles in bringing down the American culture. That cannot be denied. And while the Beatles had better music the content of their lyrics were no better. I'm not saying they singlehandedly brought down the American culture but they played their part.

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blastingas10

So you're saying that popular music isn't what people want to hear, and it's on popular because it's marketed so well? And if people like Zappa were marketed as much as the beatles, then Zappa would be as popular as the beatles? So, are you trying to say that most people really don't like the music they like, they only listen to it because it's marketed well and therefore popular?

Drumleviathan

Long live the british invasion

its clear that the beatles are forever the best example of the british invasion!!

british invasion is rock music in LA equivalent to Europe?

eraser.time206

Do you like to listen to Katy Perry? Look at all the popular genres from different eras. Most of them were different. In fact look at the music from the 60s and compare it to today's music. The quality is not the same yet people still loved the music. A lot of people today don't like music from the 60s. A lot of people from the 60s don't like music from today. People are not born with a preference in music. If someone listens to certain music long enough they will grow to like it. If Frank Zappa or any unorthodox artist from the 60s or 70s was marketed in the same manner as the Beatles eventually people would grow to like them.

Look at artists like Waka Flocka or Lil Wayne. Their music is mediocre. There's a reason people listen to them.

People from all different generations liked different clothes, different music etc. Much of this is due to the culture they are brought up in or whatever they were given.

It truly surprises me that many of you cannot understand something so simple.

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