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^ Yes, I knew Mexico and Argentina were pretty far apart, but didn`t quite realize just how far !
Originally from London, I`ve spent the last 20 years in Mexico, but that doesn`t mean that I know much about modern Latin American bands. Of all the guys you`ve posted on this thread, about six have turned up in the Mexican media, especially Astor Piazzolla, Soda Stereo and Charly García.
I haven`t listened to all your posts yet, but I though this woman was fabulous, and both clips are interesting to watch. Thanks for posting them :-
^ Yes, I knew Mexico and Argentina were pretty far apart, but didn`t quite realize just how far !
Originally from London, I`ve spent the last 20 years in Mexico, but that doesn`t mean that I know much about modern Latin American bands. Of all the guys you`ve posted on this thread, about six have turned up in the Mexican media, especially Astor Piazzolla, Soda Stereo and Charly García
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I'm not surprised about Piazzolla. He is interpreted by philharmonics all around the world. Soda Stereo signed a contract with Sony, and played all around Latin America. But didn't expected Charly García. That's a surprise.
Signed bands are deeply looked down on Argentina. Even despised. So bands tend to avoid contracts with big labels. As a result, this thread is mostly made of self produced bands.
That's good, because they are free to do whatever they want. It also means that bands don't cross borders, don't do international tours, and stay outside from MTV and Grammy awards.
It's bad for their pockets. They have a hard life. But invariably, if they sign a contract, they end ruined in oblivion.
Companies think that they "know" what consumers want. But it seems like they never worry about what consumers really want. They pretend to decide what we "should" want, and we don't want that.
Your post made me connect dots this way.
La Portuaria (no more an independent band), was on his beginnings, a band influenced by Juana Molina.
Although it may not be obvious, on this song she left his footprints:
Selva
Nada es igual
Ruta
The dots connect with Mexico because this band signed a contract with big label, those that impose what bands should do, so they recorded this song with David Byrne (from Talking Heads). It speaks about Mexicans crossing the border to United States:
Hoy no le temo a la muerte
Not bad song, but, just a ripoff from an older one named " Llévame a lo hondo". That's the kind of stuff that make us hate big labels.
Signed bands are deeply looked down on Argentina. Even despised. So bands tend to avoid contracts with big labels. As a result, this thread is mostly made of self produced bands.
That's good, because they are free to do whatever they want. It also means that bands don't cross borders, don't do international tours, and stay outside from MTV and Grammy awards.
It's bad for their pockets. They have a hard life. But invariably, if they sign a contract, they end ruined in oblivion.
^ That`s very interesting, because it`s not generally the same in the USA and Europe, as far as I know. Maybe the big labels there have learned to be more flexible and tolerant. I guess some more radical musicians/audience feel that big-label signing is a sell-out, but I think that kind of success is usually respected.
I hope to come back to this thread later to check out your latest posts.
Any more Juana Molina ?
I saw them on tv here in Mexico, so I thought they`d be well known. Their name looked more like an invented dinosaur than a real Spanish word, which is why I can`t find it again ! Anyway, I`ll let you know if I track them down them.
Perhaps it's a wordplay between archaeopteryx and arquitectos. I've never heard of that band, though.
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Originally Posted by Argento
You should not expect Mexico and Argentina hearing the same music, or even having the same tastes. The distance between Mexico and Argentina is the same as Germany to China, or Italy to South Africa.
Most Mexicans never hear more than one or two Argentine bands on his life, and Argentines also live on his own, parallel musical world. 99% of the music on this thread never was aired on Mexican radio or TV.
For example, the most prestigious band in Argentina is Redonditos de Ricota. Is impossible to start speaking about Argentine rock without this band. You can bet, 99,999999% of Mexicans never heard a word about it.
However, it seems that in Mexico they use to listen to many bands and singers from Spain. Those from the 80's were especially successful.
I think there is also a kind of "musical connection" between Argentina and Spain. In fact, to many critics, the 80's Spanish-language pop and rock boom and its internationalization (let's say "at a Pan-Hispanic level") began (and then continued) with a fusion of some Argentine and Spanish talents. They say there are two Argentine-Spanish bands essential for the Spanish-language rock of all time: Tequila and Los Rodríguez (and I agree!). Yes, I know: I should have translated more of their songs here at Music Banter, but... you know.... lack of time....
Imagine for a moment: Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly were born in Buenos Aires and Madrid and they play together. In other words, ladies and gentlemen, Tequila is your top-notch rock n' roll en español:
Matrícula de Honor ("An A Grade", 1979)
♫ "9:00 de la mañana, ................................ 9:00 in the morning, ya suena la campana, ................................ the bell rings, a clase tenemos que entrar. ................................ we gotta enter the classroom. No importa si nos gusta ................................ No matter if we like it o acaso nos disgusta, ................................ or if we dislike it, nadie te lo va a preguntar. ................................ nobody is gonna ask you about it. Marchando para adentro, ................................ Going in, no puedo soportar ................................ I can't stand pensar que un día entero ................................ thinking that I have to sit me tengo que tragar. ................................ through the whole day.
Los profes van pidiendo ................................ Teachers demand un buen comportamiento ................................ a good behaviour hablando y hablando sin parar. ................................ while talking and talking all the time. ♫ Son viejos y aburridos, ................................ They're old and boring, ¡qué cruz que tengo que aguantar! ................................ what a cross to bear! ¡Bah! ................................ Boo! Me entra por una oreja, ................................ It goes in one ear, por la otra se me va. ................................ and right out the other. Un día en el colegio... ................................ A day at the school... ...¡es un muermo total! ................................ ...is a crashing bore! ♫
♫ Y yo no sé por qué. ................................ And I don't know why. Yo no sé por qué. ................................ I don't know why. Yo no sé por qué. ................................ I don't know why.
Historia, Geografía, Latín y Biología, ................................ History, Geography, Latin and Biology, ¿a quién le pueden interesar? ................................ who would be interested in that? Los nombres se me olvidan, ................................ I forget names, los números me lían, ................................ numbers confuse me, a mí esto no me va. ................................ this doesn't work for me. No consigo entender ................................ I can't work out si esto es un deber, ................................ if this is a duty, si vengo al colegio más, ................................ if the more I go to school, más, más voy a saber. ................................ the more I will know.
Las horas no terminan, ................................ Hours are endless, me aburro cantidad, ................................ I'm bored stiff, si hubiera alguna forma ................................ if only I could de poderme largar... ................................ leave somehow...; salir de aquí, ................................ to get out of here, no volver más. ................................ to not come back again. Matrícula de Honor nunca voy a sacar. ................................ I will never get an 'A' grade. Un día en el colegio... ................................ A day at the school... ...¡es un muermo total! ................................ ...is a crashing bore!
Y yo no sé por qué. ................................ And I don't know why. ♫ Yo no sé por qué. ................................ I don't know why. Si tú sabes por qué, ................................ If you know why,
♫ ¡ay, dímelo, dímelo! ................................ oh, tell me, tell me!
Yo salgo del colegio, ................................ I'm gonna get out of the school, ya no aguanto más. ................................ I can't take it no longer. Me voy por el pasillo ................................ I go out by the corridor y por la puerta de atrás; ................................ and the back door; pasa un profesor, ................................ I bump into a teacher, me pregunta '¿dónde vas?', ................................ he asks me 'where do you go?', le digo '¡vete de mi vista!', ................................ I say to him 'get out of my sight!', '¡vete de acá!'. ................................ 'get out of here!'". ♫
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"Lullabies for adults / crossed by the years / carry the flower of disappointment / tattooed in their gloomy melodies."
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They say there are two Argentine-Spanish bands essential for the Spanish-language rock of all time: Tequila and Los Rodríguez (and I agree!).
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On Tequila, I never heard a word about that band.
On Los Rodriguez, yes. Los Rodriguez' leader was Andrés Calamaro. He's a big name in Argentina.
Calamaro integrated numerous rock bands, although maybe Los Rodriguez was not "rock":
Sin documentos
Milonga del marinero y el capitán
Para no olvidar
Hace calor
Calamaro is a big name in Argentina. He made dozens of successful bands, although I hated one of his latest works, the album "On the rocks".
¿¿¿No conocías a Tequila??? For Jupiter's sake!!! That's one of the worst MUSICAL SINS I've ever known!!!! As a penance, I impose you to jump:
♫ "Salí de casa ................................ I went out from home
con la sonrisa puesta; ................................ with a smile on;
hoy me he levantado ................................ today I've got up
contento de verdad. ................................ really happy.
El sol de la mañana ................................ The morning sun
brilla en mi cara; ................................ shines on my face;
una brisa fresca ................................ a fresh breeze
me ayuda a despertar. ................................ helps me to wake up.
La cuidad parece mi amiga; ................................ The city seems to be my friend; ♫ hoy es mi día ................................ today is my day
y nadie me lo va a arruinar. ................................ and nobody's gonna ruin it.
Las chicas de la esquina ................................ The girls in the corner
ríen con picardía; ................................ smile naughtily;
yo sé qué es lo que quieren ................................ I know what they want
y se lo voy a dar. ................................ and I'm gonna give it to them.
♫ Yo digo ¡salta! ................................ I say jump!
¡Salta conmigo! ................................ Jump with me!
Digo ¡salta! ................................ I say jump!
¡Salta conmigo! ................................ Jump with me!
¡Salta! ................................ Jump!
¡Salta conmigo! ................................ Jump with me! ♫
Voy por mi camino ................................ I go on my way
sin preocupación. ................................ with no worries.
Pasa la gente ................................ People pass by
y me mira mal, ................................ and look down on me,
pero no me importa, ................................ but I don't care,
a mí me da lo mismo; ................................ it doesn't matter to me;
hoy estoy alegre ................................ today I'm happy
y tengo ganas de saltar. ................................ and I feel like jumping.
♫ Yo digo ¡salta! ................................ I say jump!
¡Salta conmigo! ................................ Jump with me!
Digo ¡salta! ................................ I say jump!
¡Salta conmigo! ................................ Jump with me!
¡Salta! ................................ Jump!
¡Salta conmigo! ................................ Jump with me!
¡Salta! ................................ Jump!!
I'm surprised you didn't know Tequila. Not even through Ariel Rot? Former Tequila and Los Rodríguez member. Here playing Baile de ilusiones ("Dance of Hopes" or "Dance of Illusions") and Los Rodríguez's hit Mucho mejor ("Much Better"):
Mucho mejor
♫ "Hace calor, hace calor, ................................ It's hot, it's hot,
yo estaba esperando ................................ I was waiting
que cantes mi canción ................................ for you to sing my song
y que abras esa botella ................................ and open that bottle
y brindemos por ella ................................ so we drink a toast to it
y hagamos el amor ................................ and then we make love
en el balcón. ................................ at the balcony.
Mi corazón, mi corazón ................................ My heart, my heart ♫
es un músculo sano ................................ is a healthy muscle
pero necesita acción. ................................ but needs action.
Dame paz y dame guerra ................................ Give me peace and give me war
y un dulce colocón ................................ and a sweet high
y yo te entregaré lo mejor. ................................ and I'll give you the best [of me].
Ah, haa ha, ah, haa ha... ................................ Ah, haa ha, ah, haa ha...
Tan dulce como el vino, ................................ As sweet as the wine,
salada como el mar, ................................ salty like the sea,
princesa y vagabunda, ................................ princess and pauper,
garganta profunda, ................................ deep throat,
sálvame de esta soledad. ................................ save me from this loneliness.
Hace calor, hace calor, ................................ It's hot, it's hot,
ella tiene la receta ................................ [but] she knows the way
para estar mucho mejor. ................................ to make me feel much better.
Sin truco, sin prisa, ................................ Without lies, without a hurry,
me entrega su sonrisa ................................ she gives me her smile
como una sacerdotisa ................................ like a priestess
del amor. ................................ of love.
♫ Luna de miel, luna de papel, ................................ Honeymoon, paper moon,
luna llena, piel canela, ................................ full moon, cinnamon skin,
dame noches de placer. ................................ give me nights of pleasure. A veces estoy mal, ................................ Sometimes I feel bad,
a veces estoy bien, ................................ sometimes I feel good,
te daré mi corazón ................................ I'll give you my heart
para que juegues con él. ................................ for you to play with it. ♫
Ah, ha ha, ah, haa ha... ................................ Ah, haa ha, ah, haa ha...
Podrían acusarme ................................ They might reproach me
que ella es menor de edad. ................................ that she's under age.
Iremos a un hotel, ................................ We'll go to a hotel,
iremos a cenar, ................................ we'll go out for dinner,
pero nunca iremos ................................ but we'll never
juntos al altar. ................................ get hitched. ♫
Three first stanzas again."
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"Lullabies for adults / crossed by the years / carry the flower of disappointment / tattooed in their gloomy melodies."
^ That`s very interesting, because it`s not generally the same in the USA and Europe, as far as I know. Maybe the big labels there have learned to be more flexible and tolerant. I guess some more radical musicians/audience feel that big-label signing is a sell-out, but I think that kind of success is usually respected.
I hope to come back to this thread later to check out your latest posts.
Any more Juana Molina ?
I'm not sure on how to post more of Juana Molina.
She's a comedian. The kind of people that puts light over the little things that we all know, but we never are conscious of knowing until she points at it.
The problem is that that kind of stuff cannot be appreciated on different languages, and since this is an English forum, is not courteous to make posts that non spanish speakers cannot understand.
I try to post songs which -I hope- can be enjoyed beyond the language. So going deeper on Juana Molina is an idea that I don't like too much.
She likes to tell you the things you don't want to hear, and breaking the rules. She likes to disappoint; is for people who likes to be disappointed. She's a weirdo:
For Jupiter's sake!!! That's one of the worst MUSICAL SINS I've ever known!!!! As a penance, I impose you to jump:
Hybrid Mode