Genres You Dislike/Conversion

Deviouz · 05-04-2012, 04:25 AM

Hmm, Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique, Lowkey, NaS...

bob. · 05-04-2012, 05:13 AM

i'm sorry i find it very funny that you claim to hate music about drugs but one of the only "rap" songs you like is White Lines (which is about the greatest drug of all time)

Big Ears · 05-04-2012, 05:32 AM

I took it as an anti-drug song.

DoctorSoft · 05-04-2012, 07:18 AM

Big Ears, just listen to this.

Engine · 11-21-2011, 04:32 PM

Actually, there is a reason. That is, I replied to a public post about somebody's judgement of hip-hop.

(these silly emoticons are for your amusement, s_k. They mean absolutely nothing to me).

edit: this is a response to your deleted accusation that my post has "no reason"

Mrd00d · 01-10-2012, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I'm here in this thread not on my behalf but because I know someone who despises rock music (all genres) and always has, and I'm wondering what songs I might offer him to listen to so that he *gets* it: the energy, the intensity, the sexuality, the wild abandon, the rawness of it.

As an outsider looking in, rock music just appears to him like repetitive garbage and unconstrained "animalistic" emotions (which it can be!

). I wish there were songs that could hook him in and get him to appreciate the drive of the drumming and unconstrained "animalistic" emotions as positives rather than negatives.

Suggestions? How does one set the stage for someone to have a change in mindset about rock music? I just feel a little sad thinking that he will go through life without ever resonating with the emotions behind rock music. He doesn't know what he is missing, but *I* do, because rock music is great.

Today at work these two songs I like came on the radio, and I thought I could try them out on him, though I'm pretty sure he'll hate them:

* * *

Is it possible not to dance to these songs when you hear them??

Are there any other songs that you think might loosen a little rock and get it rolling in someone who despises rock music? It's as if he is emotionally deaf to what I hear in rock music, and I don't know how to get through to him.

More info about this person and what they do like please.

Also, I suggest against Should I Stay or Should I Go, personally. And yes it's possible to not dance to that song. When I hear it I change the channel or walk away myself. :P

Guybrush · 01-11-2012, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

The person is an elderly man, Mrd00d, who likes classical music...and *only* classical music. He has never been to a disco. He didn't know what one was, when I asked. (I considered taking him out dancing, but I couldn't think of a good place.)

I will take your suggestion about not sharing "Should I Stay or Should I Go," because I know he hates any low, farting-like sounds in rock music, and that song has this brumbly, distorted bass sound that he'd despise. Sigh.

Well, your walking away from that song isn't quite dancing...but it's close!

So you don't even kind of bop along to the music as you walk?

I guess when you hear that song, your answer is "I should go!"

Perhaps you could play him some rock music that shows rock is capable of combining some of that high art of his beloved classical with a rawness of emotion. The problem with rock aping classical is that the more composed and complex it gets, the more difficult it is getting into (Emerson, Lake & Palmer and National Health are good examples). Ideally, you could play him some progressive rock classics, but it could be a little hard on him.

But, as he's probably not familiar with rock classics from the 70s, you could try a song like Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven. Yes, I know, we're all tired of it, but wasn't it awesome back then when it was fresh? It starts off slowly, quite beautiful, and builds in intensity until it really becomes a proper rocking song.

I think the above suggestion is pretty good, but some other possibilities could be these songs. I think they'd be harder to get into, but I am stil trying to keep it accessible and so you never know!

Yes' classic "And You And I" must be one of the most beautiful pieces of rock music ever recorded.

A Gentle Giant song with some of the same qualities of Stairway to Heaven (some believe LZ got inspiration from this one as well as Spirit's Taurus for Stairway), being beautiful and melancholic at first and then getting into some rock sounds later. Unfortunately (perhaps), it does contain some noodlings.

I'll wait before making any more suggestions, because I figure this might not be the kind of music you wanted to introduce him to! If you want to take him dancing, it's a bit hard to do along to And You And I.

Neapolitan · 01-11-2012, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I'm here in this thread not on my behalf but because I know someone who despises rock music (all genres) and always has, and I'm wondering what songs I might offer him to listen to so that he *gets* it: the energy, the intensity, the sexuality, the wild abandon, the rawness of it.

As an outsider looking in, rock music just appears to him like repetitive garbage and unconstrained "animalistic" emotions (which it can be!

). I wish there were songs that could hook him in and get him to appreciate the drive of the drumming and unconstrained "animalistic" emotions as positives rather than negatives.

Suggestions? How does one set the stage for someone to have a change in mindset about rock music? I just feel a little sad thinking that he will go through life without ever resonating with the emotions behind rock music. He doesn't know what he is missing, but *I* do, because rock music is great.

Today at work these two songs I like came on the radio, and I thought I could try them out on him, though I'm pretty sure he'll hate them:

* * *

Billy Idol - "Dancing with Myself"

* * *

The Clash - "Should I Stay or Should I Go"

Is it possible not to dance to these songs when you hear them??

Are there any other songs that you think might loosen a little rock and get it rolling in someone who despises rock music? It's as if he is emotionally deaf to what I hear in rock music, and I don't know how to get through to him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

The person is an elderly man, Mrd00d, who likes classical music...and *only* classical music. He has never been to a disco. He didn't know what one was, when I asked. (I considered taking him out dancing, but I couldn't think of a good place.)

Well maybe the best way is to compromise and meet him half way, show him the side of Rock that borrows from Classical music, like maybe a few songs starting from the beginning of Rock and Roll with the great Buddy Holly, then The Beatles and especially ELO then maybe Oasis(?). Either after hearing these songs he will have a change of heart and start to like Rock and Roll or quite possibly despise it even more.

ThePhanastasio · 01-11-2012, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I'm here in this thread not on my behalf but because I know someone who despises rock music (all genres) and always has, and I'm wondering what songs I might offer him to listen to so that he *gets* it: the energy, the intensity, the sexuality, the wild abandon, the rawness of it.

As an outsider looking in, rock music just appears to him like repetitive garbage and unconstrained "animalistic" emotions (which it can be!

). I wish there were songs that could hook him in and get him to appreciate the drive of the drumming and unconstrained "animalistic" emotions as positives rather than negatives.

Suggestions? How does one set the stage for someone to have a change in mindset about rock music? I just feel a little sad thinking that he will go through life without ever resonating with the emotions behind rock music. He doesn't know what he is missing, but *I* do, because rock music is great.

Today at work these two songs I like came on the radio, and I thought I could try them out on him, though I'm pretty sure he'll hate them:

* * *

Billy Idol - "Dancing with Myself"

* * *

The Clash - "Should I Stay or Should I Go"

Is it possible not to dance to these songs when you hear them??

Are there any other songs that you think might loosen a little rock and get it rolling in someone who despises rock music? It's as if he is emotionally deaf to what I hear in rock music, and I don't know how to get through to him.

I'd say a good example of something that could potentially appeal would be Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody".

It features more complex arrangement than is readily available in mainstream rock and roll, classical sensibility, and beautiful melody and vocal work - with a rocking guitar near the end.

Some other Queen which would fit the bill could be:

The Prophet's Song

(My personal favorite Queen track)

Innuendo

(Gets a little synth-y, but the arrangement is there)

And for things which aren't Queen:

Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb

Sweet - Love Is Like Oxygen

Jethro Tull - Aqualung

Phish - Rift

Focus - Hocus Pocus

Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway

05-04-2012, 05:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
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11-21-2011, 04:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	Actually, there is a reason. That is, I replied to a public post about somebody's judgement of hip-hop. (these silly emoticons are for your amusement, s_k. They mean absolutely nothing to me). edit: this is a response to your deleted accusation that my post has "no reason" __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

05-04-2012, 04:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
Deviouz Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: With ur mama... Posts: 308	Hmm, Tech N9ne, Immortal Technique, Lowkey, NaS...

05-04-2012, 05:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Big Ears Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 434	I took it as an anti-drug song.

05-04-2012, 07:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
DoctorSoft Rocket Appliances Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,335	Big Ears, just listen to this.