Allright then. Hip-hop I like, which isn't hip-hop technically but it's as close as I can get (I don't like either of your songs, sorry ;)):


This is the closest I can get.
Everything you show me just lacks musicality and melody to my ears.

If you tell us what you like we can try and find a mashup :D

Why are you looking for the same thing in Hip Hop that you find in othr genres of music? It is more about the lyrical styles and beats, rather than melody. If anything, a lot of great Hip Hop tends to be off kilter, intentionally off beat.

I think I addressed this as being precisely my problem with it. Jazzmatazz for example, was one of best best hip hop albums I've heard, but I'd still only give it a 3 on RYM. I've found a lot of hip hop I have nothing bad to say about, but the point remains that I still wouldn't choose to listen to it over any other album in my collection.

Except Demon Days. Fxck me do I love Demon Days.

So what about Shabazz Palaces?

Or dis...

Okay, here's a genre I don't particularly like: modern R&B. By modern R&B I mean stuff from the past 30 years or so. I generally find it boring and bland, but I'm open for conversion attempts.

Some background to help with the conversion efforts: I do like Jill Scott a bit, though she's not someone I go out of my way to listen to. And I like jazz a lot, including acid jazz, which at times veers pretty close to R&B. I also like hip hop, though I tend not to like it when it's mixed with R&B.

So anyone care to give it a shot?

I have to say I would generally agree on that, but there are a few R&B acts I have enjoyed quite a bit. Have you listened to Erykah Badu? Baduizm and New Amerykah, Pt. 1: 4th World War are great albums in my opinion.

I've heard her here and there but never listened to any of her albums. I'll try and give a listen to one or both of the ones you recommended.

If you had to listen to one, go for the latter.

Also, "Symphony or Damn" by Terence Trent D'Arby and "Who Is Jill Scott?" by Jill Scott are pretty good.

But I do agree, I think that's the least interesting genre than has not (from what I have heard) moved on all that much. I would like to see more elements mixed into the music beyond the typical sound.

I'm more interested in melody and chords than I am in beat, I think.
To me, music is all about melody. Hip hop lacks melody.
I also don't like the style of "singing" and I don't give a **** about lyrics unless they're outrageously bad. So what is there left for me to like about hip-hop?