Amy Winehouse pronounced dead

BastardofYoung · 07-23-2011, 03:00 PM

Agreed.

Oh, and welcome to the 27 Club Amy.

**Exo** · 07-23-2011, 03:38 PM

I'll have respect for her family and send my thoughts to them, but in my opinion, anybody on a path to destruction like she was on gets no sympathy from me. It isn't sad that she died, it's sad that a voice talent like hers was wasted on irresponsibility and poor choices.

Oh, and saying she's part of the Forever 27 club is like throwing a turd into a buffet of cheeseburgers, french toast, burritos, oreos and milk, and bacon sandwiches.

BastardofYoung · 07-23-2011, 03:41 PM

every club needs the pity member ya know.

right-track · 07-23-2011, 04:02 PM

Double click.

^ This is what we lost.
Never mind what you thought you knew about her as a person. Here she is as an artist. That's all that concerns me.
I'll leave the crass comments to others.

If you can't hear it, you'll never feel it.

BastardofYoung · 07-23-2011, 04:04 PM

Ok... that last comment probably was harsh.

I think you are wrong though. She was a great talent.. she had a wonderful voice, very good singer. It is just her public image was tainted by her actions and choices.. she was a freak show, it is case of everybody loves a car crash, but nobody wants to be in one. She was the car crash we watched... we saw her self destruct in front of us and did nothing... love a circus.

She had the talent and means to go far, just a shame her demons got the worst of her ya know.

BastardofYoung · 07-23-2011, 04:50 PM

not really. People die every day.

**Janszoon** · 07-23-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bababoo

This is weird... Many famous people dying these years

As opposed to which years?

Lord Dweedle · 07-23-2011, 04:57 PM

Unfortunate, I was planning on purchasing her album next month as well.. I only just discovered her music

BobLobLaw · 07-23-2011, 04:58 PM

That's terrible. RIP.

VEGANGELICA · 07-23-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurora

I feel sorry for her family and a little her for the mess her life was in pretty much. I have no sympathy if she died due to drug abuse. She was an excellent artist and a loss. As RT said she went down the swanny years ago.

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Originally Posted by Ben Butler

I don't care, she brought it on herself with all the drug and alcohol abuse. The real travesty is the 92 people in Norway that have been shot by some nutcase. Not saying she didn't have any musical talent though, that will be a loss.

I have sympathy for Amy Winehouse, because from what I understand of addictions, those who are addicted can't just easily choose to stop (that's why it is called an addiction) since the substances affect their brain such that the ability to stop on their own becomes incredibly difficult.

When you are extremely hungry, can you stop yourself from feeling hunger? When you are very tired, can you "will" yourself out of exhaustion? I've felt very hungry before, and the urge to eat can become all-consuming, the single thought on my mind.

The best I can tell, an addiction results in similar neurological changes, and you are powerless to change the direction of your thoughts while under the influence. Blaming someone who dies of a drug overdose (if that *is* how she died) is like blaming someone for falling asleep when she is exhausted.

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain

Self destruction is a terrible way to go out. People are out there to help you, but it takes some motivation on the addicted's part. It's unfortunate she died, but it happens daily.

If someone is able to find the motivation to break an addiction, perhaps that person just isn't as physiologically addicted as another?

As motivated as I am to stay awake and alert when I am sleepy, I can't fight my brain's neurochemistry. I think that "a brain on drugs" can't fight the neurochemistry of addiction either. It isn't just a simple matter of having or lacking motivation.

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Originally Posted by right-track

This is so sad, yet not unexpected to me.
It was like watching a car crash in slow motion.

On a personal note, I'm a big fan of Amy Winehouse and this news has saddened me greatly.
So much wonderful talent, wasted.
God only knows what this woman could have achieved had she more self control.R.I.P Amy Winehouse.

She does seem to sing songs in the style you'd like, Right-track....very soulish.

Is it possible to have self-control while under the influence of drugs? Don't they by definition shift the brain's priorities and the ability to control one's desires? I guess I just don't think of addiction as being due to a problem of self-control; lack of self-control results from addiction. The question I have is what factors influenced Amy's decision to start?

I just listened to her song "Rehab," which someone mentioned earlier in the thread. The song is interesting and reminds me of how so many addicted people's stories are the same...resisting rehab, for example, and not feeling that they need it or gain anything from it.

The song reminds me to have humility: if I were addicted to some drug, I see no reason to believe that my brain/mind would react any differently than any other addicted person's. And if I *did* manage to break an addiction, it wouldn't be something to use to put down people who haven't found a way yet, or never do.

Amy Winehouse - "Rehab"
The saddest line in the song, I feel, is this one: "I don't ever wanna drink again." Imagine how it would feel, to want to stop oneself from doing something, and to fail at it again and again? I have only sympathy for someone who is walking that path, especially if it leads to her death.

07-23-2011, 03:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Agreed. Oh, and welcome to the 27 Club Amy. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

07-23-2011, 03:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	I'll have respect for her family and send my thoughts to them, but in my opinion, anybody on a path to destruction like she was on gets no sympathy from me. It isn't sad that she died, it's sad that a voice talent like hers was wasted on irresponsibility and poor choices. Oh, and saying she's part of the Forever 27 club is like throwing a turd into a buffet of cheeseburgers, french toast, burritos, oreos and milk, and bacon sandwiches. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

07-23-2011, 03:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	every club needs the pity member ya know. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

07-23-2011, 04:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Double click. ^ This is what we lost. Never mind what you thought you knew about her as a person. Here she is as an artist. That's all that concerns me. I'll leave the crass comments to others. If you can't hear it, you'll never feel it. Last edited by right-track; 07-23-2011 at 04:09 PM.

07-23-2011, 04:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Ok... that last comment probably was harsh. I think you are wrong though. She was a great talent.. she had a wonderful voice, very good singer. It is just her public image was tainted by her actions and choices.. she was a freak show, it is case of everybody loves a car crash, but nobody wants to be in one. She was the car crash we watched... we saw her self destruct in front of us and did nothing... love a circus. She had the talent and means to go far, just a shame her demons got the worst of her ya know. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

07-23-2011, 04:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	not really. People die every day. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

07-23-2011, 04:57 PM	#18 (permalink)
Lord Dweedle Music Addict Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 127	Unfortunate, I was planning on purchasing her album next month as well.. I only just discovered her music

07-23-2011, 04:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
BobLobLaw Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In a place. With a bed. Posts: 107	That's terrible. RIP. __________________ "I just want to be perfect."