Amy Winehouse pronounced dead

LoathsomePete · 07-25-2011, 05:20 PM

OK no more of this, this thread is for people to pay respects and tribute to a young woman who has died. That is it. If you wish to discuss her manner of death and what impact that has on your empathy then please do so in one of our drug threads, or create your own aimed for that kind of discussion. If you wish to discuss the horrible tragedy in Norway then please do so in the designated thread.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I know what happened in Norway, The whole world knows what happened in Norway.
You want to talk about it, then fuck off to the thread dedicated to it because it has nothing to do with this.

Ben Butler · 07-25-2011, 06:30 PM

Granted there was a point where she had a choice of whether to take the drugs and drink the alcohol, but that was years ago, and if she had an addictive personality to start with it's very easy to fall into a bad cycle like she did. At the end of the day she should be remembered for her talent and not a few reckless decisions she made years ago which led her to this sad end.
Yes, I do think the Norwegian massacre deserves more coverage, but that's just the nature of the British media...the story of a dead celebrity who's drug and alcohol addiction has been well documented is going to pull more mass readers than the deaths (although tragic) of nameless people. It's bad but it's just the way the media is, they'll write what will sell the most papers.

I hate how a lot of newspapers *cough*thesun*cough* have gone from publishing horrible stories about her a few years ago, to calling her an angel and a wasted talent (which she is)....they didn't exactly help her by splashing photos of her drugged up on their front pages to sell papers....such hypocrisy.

NSW · 07-25-2011, 08:52 PM

My heart goes out to her family, having to bear the pain of her very public downward spiral and now her death. What a tragic, terrible loss. R.I.P. Amy.

Freebase Dali · 07-25-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You have a very weird definition of tragedy. A tragedy, in the dramatic sense, is "a medieval narrative poem or tale typically describing the downfall of a great man". I would say Amy Winehouse's life story could very easily be described as a modern tragedy.

I think she was just an average man.

Neapolitan · 07-25-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

it is not tragic. Lennon = tragedy, Dimebag = tragedy... Winehouse = casualty.

If you smoke crack, shoot smack and drink and smoke all the time and exhaust yourself on the road and neglect every aspect of your own health and well being it is going to catch up to you.. that is not a tragedy, that is the reality of it. You are bound to die if you live that self-destructive life.

People are throwing out the word tragic so much now it has lost its meaning.

I don't see how you separate the two, (tragedy and casualty) Lennon and Dimebag were both casualties of deranged fans with hand guns. If you have some sympathy for Amy Winehouse or even her friends and family - then you would see it as a tragedy.

BastardofYoung · 07-25-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I don't see how you separate the two, (tragedy and casualty) Lennon and Dimebag were both casualties of deranged fans with hand guns. If you have some sympathy for Amy Winehouse or even her friends and family - then you would see it as a tragedy.

I seperate them cause a tragedy is when somebody dies no fault of their own. Lennon and Dimebag I seperated cause they died of unforseen forced, they had no idea they were going to get killed by psychotics... Winehouse though was a casualty of her own problems.. she did not walk out of her apartment and get shot by some psychotic madman.

That is the seperation.

Howard the Duck · 07-25-2011, 11:26 PM

erm RIP Amy?

**Janszoon** · 07-25-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

I seperate them cause a tragedy is when somebody dies no fault of their own.

That's actually the opposite of the primary definition of tragedy. Traditionally, a tragedy is a story where the protagonist comes to ruin as a result of their personal flaws.

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Lennon and Dimebag I seperated cause they died of unforseen forced, they had no idea they were going to get killed by psychotics... Winehouse though was a casualty of her own problems.. she did not walk out of her apartment and get shot by some psychotic madman.

That is the seperation.

Ever heard of a tragic flaw?

BastardofYoung · 07-25-2011, 11:40 PM

Yeah. I was thinking more of the definition of

"(in medieval literature) a literary work in which a great person falls from prosperity to disaster, often through no fault of his own"

But yeah, I suppose the primary meaning upon looking it up is a tragedy.

And yeah, tragic flaw.. the stuff you do not learn being in "special" classes.. pardon my ignorance, but i see what yer sayin now.

FETCHER. · 07-26-2011, 05:22 PM

I know what you mean, sir.

07-25-2011, 08:52 PM	#93 (permalink)
NSW Bigger and Better Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas girl living in the UK Posts: 2,596	My heart goes out to her family, having to bear the pain of her very public downward spiral and now her death. What a tragic, terrible loss. R.I.P. Amy. __________________ Hi.

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BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Yeah. I was thinking more of the definition of "(in medieval literature) a literary work in which a great person falls from prosperity to disaster, often through no fault of his own" But yeah, I suppose the primary meaning upon looking it up is a tragedy. And yeah, tragic flaw.. the stuff you do not learn being in "special" classes.. pardon my ignorance, but i see what yer sayin now. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

07-25-2011, 06:30 PM	#92 (permalink)
Ben Butler Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Rudheath Posts: 393	Granted there was a point where she had a choice of whether to take the drugs and drink the alcohol, but that was years ago, and if she had an addictive personality to start with it's very easy to fall into a bad cycle like she did. At the end of the day she should be remembered for her talent and not a few reckless decisions she made years ago which led her to this sad end. Yes, I do think the Norwegian massacre deserves more coverage, but that's just the nature of the British media...the story of a dead celebrity who's drug and alcohol addiction has been well documented is going to pull more mass readers than the deaths (although tragic) of nameless people. It's bad but it's just the way the media is, they'll write what will sell the most papers. I hate how a lot of newspapers coughthesuncough have gone from publishing horrible stories about her a few years ago, to calling her an angel and a wasted talent (which she is)....they didn't exactly help her by splashing photos of her drugged up on their front pages to sell papers....such hypocrisy.