is prince the best all rounder in music?

BastardofYoung · 07-13-2011, 01:04 AM

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blackboab · 07-14-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FaceFace

Prince has always created generic, crappy pop music, right up there with Michael Jackson. His talents are no more extraordinary than anyone else in the genre.

This is like arguing which log of crap smells better.

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your right..'when doves cry' is the most generic song ever to top the charts..
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the fact it has no bassline and is a totally original creation means nothing because its classed as pop music...
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'if i was your girlfriend' is a run of the mill ballad...
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'sign o the times' is an album full of generic pop music....
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i think you need to go and listen to his work...whatever music you like...prince will have done something in that genre..

Batty · 07-14-2011, 09:06 PM

Don't forget he wrote 'Walk Like An Egytian' too

Howard the Duck · 07-14-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackboab

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your right..'when doves cry' is the most generic song ever to top the charts..
.
the fact it has no bassline and is a totally original creation means nothing because its classed as pop music...
.
'if i was your girlfriend' is a run of the mill ballad...
.
'sign o the times' is an album full of generic pop music....
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i think you need to go and listen to his work...whatever music you like...prince will have done something in that genre..

i totally disagree

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Originally Posted by Batty

Don't forget he wrote 'Walk Like An Egytian' too

wha? he wrote "Manic Monday", "Walk Like an Egyptian" is a cover of a 60s song

Necromancer · 07-14-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Prince is awful to me. I also hate his guitar playing. People give it to much credit, all he does is take showsmen techincal riffs and peice them together, show some Hendrixisms and wanks away. His guitar skill seems to be on par with that guys at Guitar Works showing off their skills on their lunch break. He really is nothing to write home about. Plus he embodied everything pretensious to me. He may be hailed as a genious by some, but to me, I never saw the appeal in him.

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Originally Posted by FaceFace

Prince has always created generic, crappy pop music, right up there with Michael Jackson. His talents are no more extraordinary than anyone else in the genre.
This is like arguing which log of crap smells better.

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Originally Posted by blackboab

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your right..'when doves cry' is the most generic song ever to top the charts...
the fact it has no bassline and is a totally original creation means nothing because its classed as pop music....
'if i was your girlfriend' is a run of the mill ballad....
'sign o the times' is an album full of generic pop music.....
i think you need to go and listen to his work...whatever music you like...prince will have done something in that genre..

Prince is just as essential as the Pop Music/Genre is inherent.

VEGANGELICA · 10-26-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FaceFace

Prince has always created generic, crappy pop music, right up there with Michael Jackson. His talents are no more extraordinary than anyone else in the genre.

This is like arguing which log of crap smells better.

I was thinking about Prince's music today, because some of his albums were the first I ever owned and a few of the songs still stick in my mind.

I don't like many of his songs, and I agree that many seem like generic pop music and so I don't consider him the best all-around musical artist, but I felt some of his songs were very original and different than anything else I was hearing (on the radio) at the time they came out. Distinctive. I don't like *any* Michael Jackson songs, so I think Prince's music definitely smells better!

My favorite song by Prince is probably "Darling Nikki" because of its unexpected stoccata sounds, the way the instruments are used like human voices, and the way he sings this song (he doesn't use his falsetto throughout, thankfully). The song holds my interest because it changes from start to finish, building in intensity and morphing right to the end. That, and it's about prostitution!

Prince - "Darling Nikki"

Prince - Darling Nikki - YouTube

Doom Drew · 11-06-2011, 05:52 PM

I think Prince is definitely up there for best all around, but I don't know if he's the best. Having said that I can't think of anyone better. I find his songwriting to be hit and miss, but a lot of critical hits. I noticed someone brought up Paul McCartney being better than Prince. I'm gonna have to say all around he is not. Paul McCartney is a better song writer, which to me is pretty evident, but as far as technical abilities on instruments (aka musical ability outside of songwriting) Prince is much better. Sure McCartney was a very good Bass player and an okay drummer and a good guitarist, but Prince is an amazing guitarist, good drummer, great bassist, and good keyboardist. He also has a much better vocal range that Paul, though Paul has an excellent voice. On top of that, Prince's showmanship is brilliant. For much of Paul's career he didn't even play live shows. Paul McCartney's showmanship is mediocre but Prince damn near puts on rock operas. Great dancer and furthermore I disagree with a comment that Prince lacks soul flat out.

Batty · 11-07-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

i totally disagree

wha? he wrote "Manic Monday", "Walk Like an Egyptian" is a cover of a 60s song

Well some Bangles pop pap anyways

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 11-08-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I don't see him as pretentious.
In fact a lot of his music is quite minimalist & sparse.

He might have a bit of an ego but I think he's earned that right.

I missed the Boat with Prince. He looks a little crazy to me and I never really engaged with his music. Should I give him a proper listen?

blastingas10 · 11-08-2011, 01:37 AM

Heavens no. He's not a bad guitarists but I can think of many more talanted musicians. Stephin Stills for one.

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Doom Drew Groupie Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 43	I think Prince is definitely up there for best all around, but I don't know if he's the best. Having said that I can't think of anyone better. I find his songwriting to be hit and miss, but a lot of critical hits. I noticed someone brought up Paul McCartney being better than Prince. I'm gonna have to say all around he is not. Paul McCartney is a better song writer, which to me is pretty evident, but as far as technical abilities on instruments (aka musical ability outside of songwriting) Prince is much better. Sure McCartney was a very good Bass player and an okay drummer and a good guitarist, but Prince is an amazing guitarist, good drummer, great bassist, and good keyboardist. He also has a much better vocal range that Paul, though Paul has an excellent voice. On top of that, Prince's showmanship is brilliant. For much of Paul's career he didn't even play live shows. Paul McCartney's showmanship is mediocre but Prince damn near puts on rock operas. Great dancer and furthermore I disagree with a comment that Prince lacks soul flat out. __________________ "Elements of the past and future combining to create something not quite as good as either."

11-08-2011, 01:37 AM	#30 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Heavens no. He's not a bad guitarists but I can think of many more talanted musicians. Stephin Stills for one.