...and the most significant and infuential album ever made is...
 

Someone's posted on The Stone Roses album thread that it's the most significant and infuential album ever made. Someone else said this was laffable. I don't think it's laffable. Maybe it's not diverse enough and came too late in rock history compared to Sgt.Pepper or Hendrix or Dark side of the moon and all the rest.

I think that it's beyond dispute Sgt.Pepper is the most significant and infuential album ever made but that doesn't mean it's the greatest and I think we have to ask questions about an album with WI64 on it as thegreatest album ever made.
Is there a difference between an album being the greatest and being the most significant and influential?
What's everyone else think?

i think it is a pointless thing to discuss in the first place, to subjective.

The Beatles - "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"

Pink Floyd - "The Dark Side Of The Moon"

Bob Dylan - "Highway 61 Revisited"

The Velvet Underground - "The Velvet Underground & Nico"

The Rolling Stones - "Exile On Main Street"

The Clash - "London Calling"

David Bowie - "The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars"

The Ramones - "The Ramones"

Michael Jackson - "Thriller"

Nirvana - "Nevermind"

The Doors - "The Doors"

i think it is a pointless thing to discuss in the first place, too subjective. (2)

What's wrong with subjectivity? If it was objective then there would only be one answer to the thread, and no need for discussion...

nothing is wrong with it, there would just be no right answer. so what would be proven?

Nothing, and there'd be no right answer. Just like any other discussion on MB.

how bout song? house of the rising sun by the animals convinced dylan to go electric, which changed music more than anything else

I wouldn't go that far. not "more than anything else".

Besides, if you go by songs and inspiration like that, you would have to say for example Woody Guthrie was more influential, cause he recorded a version of the song which influenced the Animals cover, Woody Guthrie influenced both in that regard (who was more of an influence on Dylan then that of The Animals). But then you would have to say the one who inspired Woody was more influential.. and repeat this to no end.

The reason that all of this is so subjective, because an album which may have had a significant impact on a particular style of music may have ultimately been a minute factor (to say the least) within another style of music.

For example: The Stones' Exile On Main St. is a supremely important and influential album, as is The Talking Heads' Remain In Light, but for very different sorts of artists who are currently experiencing some manner of success.

Pop music would almost certainly draw more from an album like Michael Jackson's Thriller, or even a lot of David Bowie's The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars, or Aladdin Sane.

As such, it's going to be all the more subjective because people are going to tend to believe the more influential album to be the one that most influenced their own favorite music.

For what it's worth, I feel like Remain In Light was the most important and influential album as far as influencing the music I most enjoy, but I know that it wouldn't be as important from a hip-hop, heavy metal, or prog standpoint, although I still enjoy music from those genres massively.

I thought it was The Byrds playing his songs with electric guitars that convinced him to go electric, no? The Byrds amalgamated The Beatles and Bob Dylan for their sound which Bob liked, so you also have to mention The Beatles somewhere too. And the band, The Band, that once backed Dylan backed Ronnie Hawkins first as The Hawks. So if anything it would be The Beatles and Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks that "help "changed music more than anything else." Not to mention other bands that were influential too, I'm not for just one band or person radically changing music, because every artist/band has their influences and contemporaries. Even though bands like The Animals and the Byrds are often over looked they have their place in the world of music just like Zimmie, he wasn't the only critter making music in the 60's.

I Agree^:laughing:^, But why not, nominate Van Halen's debut album as a candidate for the top 10.

Excuse me? House Of The Rising Son is an ancient blues standard. It was played by who knows how many barroom bluesmen before The Animals picked it up. The earliest recorded version was Clarence Ashley's 1933 recording, and he claims he learned it from his grandfather. Who probably learned it from HIS grandfather. And so on and so forth.

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Sorry, off topic. Carry on.

None of those versions convinced Bob Dylan to go electric, though. The Animals version did.

I win.

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yeah and dylan recorded it in '62. doesn't matter. it was still the animals' version that convinced dylan, according to him, to go electric

I wouldn't go as far as 'any other discussion on MB'. Certainly though for some people a particular piece of music might be so personal to them that they might not want to really discuss it. That can limit real discussion.

don't believe everything you read.

from 1928:

If anything The Animals would of been hated for this... do you remember the controversy when Dylan went Electric...

Though there isn't any one definitive answer to this, i'm gonna go ahead and mention The Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds", which is what inspired The Beatles to do "Sgt. Peppers" in the first place (and, in my opinion, is the more intricate and forward-thinking of the two albums, though that's getting more subjective then i'd like).

needs some cocaine.

I`ve always considered "Revolver" as superior to "Sgt Pepper".
Granted, Pepper took rock in a new direction, but the songs and musicianship on the earlier album are superior imo.
And Brian Wilson claimed "Revolver" inspired him to produce "Pet Sounds".
All are great albums, btw.

Yeh it might be slightly better than Pepper, though sometimes I like the colourfulness of that album. And yes all those albums are great. I think Abbey Road may be the most consistent album by The Beatles though.

Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica

don't beleive everything you read. That's not House of the Rising Sun.

yeah. my bad.

ps. i before e.

bah, typo :p:

I was about to say that, too.

Good song, though, Blind Blake is always awesome. Has great fills.

But yeah. Not "The House Of The Rising Sun" we're talkin' bout here.

I just worked out you are referring to When I'm 64, which I think is a nice song with a nice somber contrast in the middle section. The arrangement is nice and it has it's place on the album.

There is no one greatest or most influential album and anyone who makes huge claims for some album as being that is likely to get some ridicule.

Of albums I have listened to I'd probably go with Ziggy. Led Zep's IV album seems pretty influential too, in the hard rock and metal scenes.

When you get around to listening to the Beatles albums that you`ve been recommended, you may end up suggesting a Beatles album :pimp:

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Did I even need to?

Fair enough. ;)

Yay lets give a bunch of albums that already get far to much credit even more credit.

Such as?

Either way, it's impossible to say what the most "significant and influential" album is anyways...

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this is where it all started, mang

The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground and Nico
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...it's been said a ton already and for good reason. Very influential in Lo-Fi, Experimental, Shoegazing and all sorts of fun genres.

Captain Beefheart -Trout Mask Replica
Seriously just listen to it about a dozen times then you'll get it hahaha! It's genuis, you'll find out that many experimental bands are borrowing from this album.

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Really the first heavy record of its time. Can't really think of anything as consistant and heavy before this was made.

Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Mind blowing material. Great experimentation with jazz that surely have influenced a great many bands.

ahem...
Maybellene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

bu-bu-bu-but Maybellene was more "country" than "rockabilly" or "rock n roll"

don't know what version you listened to