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Arya Stark 06-11-2011 05:51 PM

Music/Music Video Censorship
 
I'm sure that there has been a thread made about this subject in the past, but it didn't come up on google when I looked it up.

The Parents Television Council is apparently in the process of attempting to ban Rihanna's video for "Man Down" where she is sexually assaulted and kills the man responsible. According to some of the parents on this council, it is a horrible form of executed murder etcetc.
What do you guys think of this? In my personal opinion, I honestly think that there are worse things on television than this music video and I think that banning this video on primetime television is taking away from the artist as well. This is the second video, if I'm not mistaken, of Rihanna's that has been considered for a ban by this Council.
What do you guys think about this?
Here's a video complaining about the situation (Comedy mostly):


Here is "Man Down" by Rihanna:


captaincaptain 06-11-2011 07:06 PM

They're not the one's that actually do the banning. Though they do get as many old, prudish Americans they can find to complain to the FCC about almost anything. I don't think this video will/should be banned. Though networks like MTV have a long history for banning videos some for ridiculous reasons i.e. Neil Young's This Note's For You

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 06-11-2011 07:15 PM

This is what they ban? Freaking Christ, I've seen way more 'horrific' things in music videos. Especially in the 90s.

Paedantic Basterd 06-11-2011 07:30 PM

Not only are there much worse things on television, but there are much worse things in music videos.

Like the music.

BastardofYoung 06-11-2011 08:12 PM

Whatever, I am sure the kids will eventully realise I Spit On Your Grave is on cable.

Arya Stark 06-11-2011 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain (Post 1068730)
They're not the one's that actually do the banning. Though they do get as many old, prudish Americans they can find to complain to the FCC about almost anything. I don't think this video will/should be banned. Though networks like MTV have a long history for banning videos some for ridiculous reasons i.e. Neil Young's This Note's For You

I know they don't do it, but they're obnoxious nonetheless. And Kingsley's right. Maybe they should spend more time raising their kids and less time watching television to decide what to ban.

Sansa Stark 06-11-2011 09:31 PM

This is GREAT marketing for anyone who gets banned. When does banning **** ever work, I mean really? Kids will be frothing at the mouth for that kinda stuff.

Arya Stark 06-11-2011 09:43 PM

I was thinking the same thing.
It also shows she's making an impact, doing something shocking.

BastardofYoung 06-11-2011 09:49 PM

^ exsactly.

Always silly to me that these things get cencored or banned.

if this was never banned by anybody.. I see no reason why that Rihanna video should be:

BastardofYoung 06-11-2011 09:52 PM

but you know, i guess it is one thing for a man to kill a woman and bury her, that is okay.. but when a woman takes revenge on a man for abusing her, that is just going to far.

yeah, up yours standards !

Arya Stark 06-11-2011 09:53 PM

Oh my god. =[

captaincaptain 06-11-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 1068796)
I know they don't do it, but they're obnoxious nonetheless. And Kingsley's right. Maybe they should spend more time raising their kids and less time watching television to decide what to ban.

Parental responsibility isn't a logical solution for the PTC. They would rather be the parent for everyone's child. As a parent I know what is good for my kid to see or not to see.

BastardofYoung 06-11-2011 10:09 PM

I remember when i was young, and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was all the rage, and all of a sudden it was deemed "unsuitable for children" as it "glorified violence" and here was this huge debate at the time about how it was going to negatively impact children. There is always something stupid they wanna ban.

If you have good parents, and they raise you with proper morals and teach you from a young age right from wrong, and the difference between reality and fiction, you should be fine.

My mom was allowing me to watch r-rated movies when i was 11 years old, she allowed me to buy albums with parental advisory stickers on them as well... listen to stuff with "bad language". But she also took the time to teach me about the difference between right and wrong. She would allow me to watch it and she would question me on it after, and would make sure I knew that for example, if i saw a movie with a woman getting punched in the face that I knew that was not acceptable, she challenged me all the way... and you know, I was perfectly normal. I was watching A Nightmare on Elm Street when I was 12 years old... and all these parents of my friends critizied her for it... but she knew I was smart enough to understand that what i was watching is fiction, if there was any sign that I thought it was reality, or if I went out and did something cause i watched it... she would of took that right away.

I was raised by my parents to question what i see, and if I had any questions... i could ask and be open.

She allowed me to listen to the sunday night sex show when i was 13, while i had friends whose parents would not. They thought I was a "bad influence" and my mom was basically the antichrist for allowing me to watch and listen to these things...

But you know what, I rarely got in trouble... while these sheltered kids got into more..

Point being, if a parent takes the time with a child at a young age and educates them, teaches them right from wrong, and questions them, talks to them and encourages them to question something and ask them questions... they are more likely to be fine and not get in trouble or be warped or whatever some people wanna say.. however, if you shelter your kids away from everything and do not take the time to educate or teach them these important morals that will help them, and not listen to them and not pay attention to them, they will be more likely to act out and do something they should not.

Banning is basically a form of sheltering, but it is like when you tell a child they can not do something, without explaining to them why they can not do it, jeez.... I wonder what will happen.... oh yeah, they will go out and do it anyways. You can not watch them 24/7 and you can not hide them away from the real world forever.

No child will get the bad idea from watching these videos IF the proper care is taken with them, and they have a positive influence there to question them on it, and make sure they understand what they are seeing, and know right from wrong and consequences of actions...

If you do not like what you see on TV, change the channel... but do not decide for me what I can or can not watch...

BastardofYoung 06-11-2011 10:19 PM

had to edit one part that was wrong in my statement... i really should proof read before hitting enter, haha.

Arya Stark 06-11-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by captaincaptain (Post 1068836)
Parental responsibility isn't a logical solution for the PTC. They would rather be the parent for everyone's child. As a parent I know what is good for my kid to see or not to see.

Of course, and I'm sure you also now how to handle it when your children watch or hear something they aren't supposed to.

The Virgin 06-12-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by awwsugar (Post 1068691)
i honestly think that there are worse things on television than this music video and i think that banning this video on primetime television is taking away from the artist as well.

i agree with you on this 101%

Lord Dweedle 06-12-2011 01:12 PM

aint it obvious?

Them old chicks prob just Jealous Rihanna is smoking hot and talented and their husbands probly fancy her hardout.

EDIT: The real issue is the cut versions of songs or censored videos that dont need to be cut or censored, why the heck is I Need a Dollar's video censored when he talks about alcohol? And why is All of the Lights got a NON-offensive verse cut?

And why do I gotta wait till 9pm to watch Lady Gaga's vids on Juice???

sigh..

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 06-12-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Dweedle (Post 1069138)
And why do I gotta wait till 9pm to watch Lady Gaga's vids on Juice??

Grape juice?

Lord Dweedle 06-14-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1069187)
Grape juice?

Music CHannel Juice, they never show lady gaga till late, apparantly the ppl who like watchin vids with big butts in em complained that lady gaga was to M rated lol

Janszoon 06-14-2011 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1068834)
but you know, i guess it is one thing for a man to kill a woman and bury her, that is okay.. but when a woman takes revenge on a man for abusing her, that is just going to far.

yeah, up yours standards !

Unless the song is by Aerosmith of course...


BastardofYoung 06-14-2011 01:27 PM

exsactly, if it is by a man it seems to go unnoticed, if the video is by a woman, i guess it gets banned.

maine.rush 06-20-2011 09:24 AM

censorship is pretty much always an evil thing

The Virgin 06-20-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1070389)
exsactly, if it is by a man it seems to go unnoticed, if the video is by a woman, i guess it gets banned.

sexism at its finest

djchameleon 06-20-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung (Post 1070389)
exsactly, if it is by a man it seems to go unnoticed, if the video is by a woman, i guess it gets banned.

not true, if Chris Brown did a similar video

Double standards would be thrown all over the place.

The video wouldn't even get aired.

BastardofYoung 06-20-2011 02:10 PM

well, that is all guesses. most likely yeah.. but doesnt change the history of these things.

Lord Dweedle 06-21-2011 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1070382)
Unless the song is by Aerosmith of course...


i luv dis song


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