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Old 01-22-2011, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If it's any consolation, I like the beatles because I think their music sounds good.
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Old 01-22-2011, 12:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I understand the Beatles really are hyped as the holy grail of music, but isn't it possible to just ignore that and form a legitimate personal opinion on the band? I'll admit that it took me a long time myself to give them a chance just because of the ridiculous fanaticism that followed their music, but trying to come at it from a neutral standpoint helped me really get into their music. It is completely possible to not enjoy their music as well. I think that opinion is what separates the people with an appreciation for the Beatles and the fanboys.

Regardless, once again people are completely willing to argue about the Beatles for the millionth time...I think that in itself says something.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think The Beatles are a great band that made great music, but I just think they're kind of soulless. I don't think this because they made popular music, but because their music doesn't really mean anything to me. For me to really like a musician and for them to be one of my favorite artists, they have to really connect with me. Maybe there were just too many good musicians in the band and their different messages/souls sort of canceled each other out and got muddled. I just don't see any message in their music. I feel like I don't know any of the Beatles any better by listening to their music. Of course, this is a very personal opinion, but an opinion nonetheless. On the other hand, I feel like soul is definitely in John and George's solo work.

Maybe it's something about musicians working in a collaborative effort that just turns me off. Now that I think about it my favorite musicians are usually solo artists. Their ultimate message and personality is just more clear to me.
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Okay, I understand that haters gonna hate and lovers gonna love, but tossing the Beatles in the same bin as Lady Gaga is just... no.
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I don't like Lady GaGa as much as the Beatles, but why is the thought of them being in the same category instantly rejected? As if it's repulsive. Lady Gaga is about as popular as the Beatles were in the 60s, or Madonna was in the 80s. She, like them, is just a popular icon of our time. whether she will have any lasting impact years later remains to be seen.

Musically, I don't think GaGa pushes many boundries, but neither did the Beatles at first. Just wait until her popularity fades a bit. I expect big things from her.
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I don't like Lady GaGa as much as the Beatles, but why is the thought of them being in the same category instantly rejected? As if it's repulsive. Lady Gaga is about as popular as the Beatles were in the 60s, or Madonna was in the 80s. She, like them, is just a popular icon of our time. whether she will have any lasting impact years later remains to be seen.

Musically, I don't think GaGa pushes many boundries, but neither did the Beatles at first. Just wait until her popularity fades a bit. I expect big things from her.
I think she's just another pop icon who will go unknown in a year or so. The only long-lasting pop musicians that I can recall are The Beatles and Michael Jackson. Of course, I may be missing a few. Just look at pop musicians now... they're famous for a little while and then there comes a new one.
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I don't like Lady GaGa as much as the Beatles, but why is the thought of them being in the same category instantly rejected? As if it's repulsive. Lady Gaga is about as popular as the Beatles were in the 60s, or Madonna was in the 80s. She, like them, is just a popular icon of our time. whether she will have any lasting impact years later remains to be seen.

Musically, I don't think GaGa pushes many boundries, but neither did the Beatles at first. Just wait until her popularity fades a bit. I expect big things from her.
I think it's primarily because I hardly consider the Beatles as "pop", at least not in the same vein as Gaga's music. The definition of pop has changed drastically over the last 50 years, and while I guess both artists are considered "Top 40 pop", the sound of that "top 40 pop" has changed immensely since the Beatles were making music.

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Gaga would literally have to throw away 90% of her fanbase to do something interesting, and I don't think she has the guts to really take a risk like that. I mean, if she did, she would have by now.
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Gaga would literally have to throw away 90% of her fanbase to do something interesting, and I don't think she has the guts to really take a risk like that. I mean, if she did, she would have by now.
How come? She's on her second album...how long did it take The Beatles to do something interesting?
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How come? She's on her second album...how long did it take The Beatles to do something interesting?
Unlike the Beatles, she can't guarantee the spotlight is going to be on her five years from now, and it especially won't if she's playing it safe.

I mean, how long do you really think she can skate off the shock value(the only thing keeping her up now)?

I honestly think all she's going to do when the popularity fades away is eliminate every aspect of what she does that appeals to fourteen year old girls, and aim solely for the gay audience. A transition she's already in the process of making. An audience she acquired through dishonest sentiment, and ludicrous stereotypical gimmicks. Therefore, I predict more dishonest sentiment, more ludicrous stereotypical gimmicks, and less care of the actual music end of things.
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