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Old 11-16-2010, 10:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exactly. I'd give kudos to whoever does it, as long as it is done. I respect the folks who innovate in music and move it forward into a good place, but I don't think that if it happened to be someone else then they deserve less respect. That wouldn't make sense to me at all.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If it wasn't the Beatles, it would have been another group. It's not like they were the only great and innovative band out there, it's just they were discovered and others either did or didn't at all get noticed.
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Old 11-17-2010, 09:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If it wasn't the Beatles, it would have been another group. It's not like they were the only great and innovative band out there, it's just they were discovered and others either did or didn't at all get noticed.
Exactly. All the right things came together for them at the right time. I think things will always find a way to evolve and I can't say the Beatles would have been the only way for music to evolve that way.
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Old 11-17-2010, 03:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Exactly. All the right things came together for them at the right time. I think things will always find a way to evolve and I can't say the Beatles would have been the only way for music to evolve that way.
Sure, I'm there there are all kinds of external factors that must be taken into consideration. Market pressure for a "new sound" would certainly have been one of them. Evolving technology is another.

I would be inclined to think that the repressed culture of the 50s had more to do with music evolution than The Beatles did, but what do you guys think?
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i think beatles has influenced most of musician
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Sure, I'm there there are all kinds of external factors that must be taken into consideration. Market pressure for a "new sound" would certainly have been one of them. Evolving technology is another.
I agree. External factors are important. For instance, now you mentioned A. Graham Bell, what about Meucci (the real inventor of the telephone?)? And then Edison, the diverse circumstances of the sound-recording inventions, etc.

And yes, we have to see the industry's pressure, according to the decade in question (for instance, now, at the "Internet Age", it is less effective, etc...). There are many things to consider.
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i actually know a few people that saw they are not influenced by anybody at all, they say they're completely original...

here's an example of this kind of person (he says he has no influences...)
ben crea's Drop the Bass: Nightclub City Original Song Contest Submission - Indaba Music
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i actually know a few people that saw they are not influenced by anybody at all, they say they're completely original...
That sounds like what I'd say. I'm more influenced by genres than by individual artists. Though I would mention artists I enjoy listening to.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i actually know a few people that saw they are not influenced by anybody at all, they say they're completely original...

here's an example of this kind of person (he says he has no influences...)
ben crea's Drop the Bass: Nightclub City Original Song Contest Submission - Indaba Music
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Sure sounds like he's influenced by the entire Electro trend, because that entire song is nothing I haven't heard before.

I do realize you were probably being sarcastic. I just wanted to further support your case.
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Old 11-20-2010, 06:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Sure sounds like he's influenced by the entire Electro trend, because that entire song is nothing I haven't heard before.

I do realize you were probably being sarcastic. I just wanted to further support your case.
i actually wasn't being sarcastic he really believes he has no influences. he told me influences are crutches for stupid people with no originality. also he hates indie music he only enjoys mainstream music. and if it wasn't already obvious he's a douche to everyone on the site that doesn't completely agree with him.
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