Bands with Better Lyrics than Bob Dylan?

TheElectricSlug · 10-29-2010, 06:58 PM

WTF is this madness?:

Old-Wizard.com » Top 10 Bands with Better Lyrics than Bob Dylan

Never even heard of 8 of these bands.

MoonlitSunshine · 10-29-2010, 07:05 PM

I'm going to assume the bands you have heard of on that list are Radiohead and Oasis, considering that they're both ridiculously famous, but seriously, you've never heard of Pulp, or The Smiths? Wow.

As for whether he's right, no, probably not, not for all of them anyway, by a long shot. I might not be a particular fan of bob dylan as a musician, but he's a brilliant poet; his music is his lyrics. There are people whose lyrics I prefer, from a personal point of view, but certainly for being renowned for one particular thing, the only person who comes to mind immediately who is as well known for their lyrics as Dylan is, is Leonard Cohen.

TheCunningStunt · 10-29-2010, 07:10 PM

Yeah, what they said.
8 of them, really?

The writer lost any credibility when they said Oasis have better lyrics than Bob Dylan.
Drunken nonsense rhyming fishes with dishes is better than thought provoking/philosophical/political lyrics. Yeah, okay.

The Smiths yes, maybe. But Dylan was a damn good lyricist.
What a dreadful list.

loveissucide · 10-29-2010, 07:16 PM

Radiohead-surrealist,stream of consciousness and oblique in the manner of David Byrne and Michael Stipe.I get the impression the music was written first on a lot of tracks.

The Verve and Oasis: pseudo-profound anthemity

ABC and The La's: One brilliant debut with very strong lyrics,but hardly a sustainable and enduring body of work open to infinite interpretation.

Pulp and The Smiths:Amongst the best songwriters of their respective generations, yes.But "Better Than Dylan" is a massive stretch.

The Thrills:

clutnuckle · 10-29-2010, 07:21 PM

Zero credibility, Oasis are terrible, etc., etc.

loveissucide · 10-29-2010, 07:22 PM

I like Mercury Rev plenty, but this is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read.

Quote:

Get to “Opus 40” and you will get an analysis of the feminine figure with objectivity and grace unknown to anything in Dylan’s work. Past Deserters’ Songs though is The Secret Migration. This album was a lyrical masterpiece. Check out the first song on the album “Secret for a Song”, and you will hear a haunting sound about the deep forest and world unknown to people without imagination beyond “social commentary”, like Dylan.

Considering Dylan had moved beyond social commentary by the time of Blonde On Blonde, which is predominantly about the feminine mystique( as is quite a lot of his post-motorcycle crash work), that is genuinely ludricous.

Funniest of all, none of those bands include the handful of people who have a body of lyrics that compare (IMO Nick Cave,Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, Elvis Costello)
AND he gets Neil Tennant( who does have a fantastic body of work) and Martin Fry mixed up.

Epic Fail is Epic.

TheCunningStunt · 10-29-2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutnuckle

Zero credibility, Oasis are terrible, etc., etc.

Oasis aren't terrible, they're alright.
But their lyrics are self admitted drunken ramblings, rhyming any words that pop into Noel's head.

I like The La's debut a lot as well, but better lyrics than Dlyan.

TheElectricSlug · 10-29-2010, 07:35 PM

Man, the link at the bottom is even worse:

Old-Wizard.com » Top 10 Ways to Tell If You Know Nothing About Music

clutnuckle · 10-29-2010, 07:37 PM

I stand by my statement that Oasis are terrible, I only emit elitism because girls don't talk to me and I use my hatred of Oasis as a safe cushioning from the realization that my life is an empty void, etc., etc.

TheCunningStunt · 10-29-2010, 07:39 PM

2. You name off great bands that continually receive accolades from modern press
...Like Oasis?

Jesus Christ. I'm a little dumbfounded.

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MoonlitSunshine Dat's Der Bunny! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,088	I'm going to assume the bands you have heard of on that list are Radiohead and Oasis, considering that they're both ridiculously famous, but seriously, you've never heard of Pulp, or The Smiths? Wow. As for whether he's right, no, probably not, not for all of them anyway, by a long shot. I might not be a particular fan of bob dylan as a musician, but he's a brilliant poet; his music is his lyrics. There are people whose lyrics I prefer, from a personal point of view, but certainly for being renowned for one particular thing, the only person who comes to mind immediately who is as well known for their lyrics as Dylan is, is Leonard Cohen. __________________ "I found it eventually, at the bottom of a locker in a disused laboratory, with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard". Ever thought of going into Advertising?" - Arthur Dent Last edited by MoonlitSunshine; 10-29-2010 at 07:14 PM.

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loveissucide Himself Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Leuven ,Belgium, via Ireland Posts: 1,325	Radiohead-surrealist,stream of consciousness and oblique in the manner of David Byrne and Michael Stipe.I get the impression the music was written first on a lot of tracks. The Verve and Oasis: pseudo-profound anthemity ABC and The La's: One brilliant debut with very strong lyrics,but hardly a sustainable and enduring body of work open to infinite interpretation. Pulp and The Smiths:Amongst the best songwriters of their respective generations, yes.But "Better Than Dylan" is a massive stretch. The Thrills: __________________ www.last.fm/user/p-mccusker http://www.mixcloud.com/pmccusker www.valjester.wordpress.com Last edited by loveissucide; 10-29-2010 at 07:24 PM.

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TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	2. You name off great bands that continually receive accolades from modern press ...Like Oasis? Jesus Christ. I'm a little dumbfounded. __________________ I don't feel and I feel great. Last FM

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