downwardspiral

I disagree, loudly. Not one bad record has been released by this band, this isn't a biased view either, genuinely think they're one of the best bands in the world. People really p!ssed me off with their reactions to Zeitgeist, just because it wasn't another Siamese Dream.. it's called evolution. A band would become pretty boring if they just released reruns of previous records, no matter how successful they were.

Teargarden is getting rave reviews and their live shows are equating to how they were in the 90s. Just goes to show.

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duga

Oh my god, man, don't even get me started. While I don't think the Smashing Pumpkins are on the fall, I do think they have plateaued and are kind of staying steady in mediocrity now. This isn't Billy's fault though. He always did what he wanted (Adore after one of the most rocking albums of the 90's...Machina after people said they wanted the rocking back). He said he had always hoped his fans were loyal enough to trust him in anything he tried. Zeitgeist was the first album where he listened to EXACTLY what the majority of fans wanted...mindless straightforward alternative rock. I enjoyed it just fine, but it really is the weakest album they have put out.

While I respect what he is doing now with the Teargarden EP's, I just can't listen to them like I used to now that even Jimmy is gone. The drums just don't have the OOMPH anymore, and what is really sad is I can tell these new songs would be holding their own with classic Pumpkins if it was Jimmy behind the kit.

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Necromancer

I think that Billy Corgan is recognized as one of the great artist and composer's of the day, you dont have to have a popular album on the charts in order to gain respect as an artist, the Pumpkins are classic.

downwardspiral

I hear ya duga, I do agree that Zeitgeist is definitely not their best album but I heard a lot of people saying this album cashed them in and that it was infinitely poor. I disagree with that, and I just think they've never released a BAD record, I don't personally think they'll get any BETTER than they were back in the day but they'll never stoop below it.

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music_phantom13

Cool ****. Anyway...

Rise: School of Seven Bells, Dinosaur Jr (these last 2 albums are just as good as their old stuff w/ Lou)

Fall: Weezer, DOOM

This_Is_Corey

I really liked Dooms last album.

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Husky McDump

DooM's last album was good, but it wasn't his A game. New Madvilliain should be very impressive, but if this album is also disappointing then I will agree that DooM is on a downward slope.

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RVCA

Weezer has been on the fall ever since their debut. They know it too, and don't care.

music_phantom13

Right, I'm not gonna try to argue that the Blue Album isn't their finest, that's a given. But this latest saw them drop a lot more than on any of the previous albums imo.

Luckily I still have Beck for my 90s alternative rocker that still kicks ass. Every album he continues to amaze me.

sidewinder

For fans of Weezer and Beck, I shall recommend you check out some sElf, who has not fallen off.

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