OctaneHugo

+10,000. I ran through Is This It last week for the first time in a while and it's astounding how bad they've gotten when their debut was so good.

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WeeLittleHobbit

Calm thyself, I was only playing. One question though: What, in your opinion, separates Jesse McCartney from Justin Bieber?

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TheCunningStunt

No you weren't.

Anyway, everyone knows Jesse McCartney has been making consistently good Pop records for years now. Justin Bieber is clearly just riding off the back of his brilliance.

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homesick.alien

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not :|

a while back my friend and i had regular "Bad Singing- Jesse McCartney style!" sessions.

on topic:

Rise- Band of Horses. Last album critically and fanatically acclaimed (I think)

Fall- Eels. As much as I love him, last album really wasnt up to scratch, sounded recycled.

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downwardspiral

I disagree, loudly. Not one bad record has been released by this band, this isn't a biased view either, genuinely think they're one of the best bands in the world. People really p!ssed me off with their reactions to Zeitgeist, just because it wasn't another Siamese Dream.. it's called evolution. A band would become pretty boring if they just released reruns of previous records, no matter how successful they were.

Teargarden is getting rave reviews and their live shows are equating to how they were in the 90s. Just goes to show.

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duga

Oh my god, man, don't even get me started. While I don't think the Smashing Pumpkins are on the fall, I do think they have plateaued and are kind of staying steady in mediocrity now. This isn't Billy's fault though. He always did what he wanted (Adore after one of the most rocking albums of the 90's...Machina after people said they wanted the rocking back). He said he had always hoped his fans were loyal enough to trust him in anything he tried. Zeitgeist was the first album where he listened to EXACTLY what the majority of fans wanted...mindless straightforward alternative rock. I enjoyed it just fine, but it really is the weakest album they have put out.

While I respect what he is doing now with the Teargarden EP's, I just can't listen to them like I used to now that even Jimmy is gone. The drums just don't have the OOMPH anymore, and what is really sad is I can tell these new songs would be holding their own with classic Pumpkins if it was Jimmy behind the kit.

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Necromancer

I think that Billy Corgan is recognized as one of the great artist and composer's of the day, you dont have to have a popular album on the charts in order to gain respect as an artist, the Pumpkins are classic.

downwardspiral

I hear ya duga, I do agree that Zeitgeist is definitely not their best album but I heard a lot of people saying this album cashed them in and that it was infinitely poor. I disagree with that, and I just think they've never released a BAD record, I don't personally think they'll get any BETTER than they were back in the day but they'll never stoop below it.

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sidewinder

The last album has gotten a lot of hate too, just look at its overall rating on RYM (it has gone up a bit actually, used to be below 3). I personally like it a lot and have actually connected with it more than with the first two, which I also really like. So yeah, they could be on the rise, but I wouldn't have said it myself as I have no idea where they'll go from here and whether I'll like it or not.

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emostreetguitar562268

i was hoping you were, but there were lots of others questioning my music tastes, that was just to clear things up a bit.

and the difference is that Jesse doesnt sound like a 6 yr old little girl. Justin does.

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