Originally Posted by sidewinder I was going to say something along the lines of "damn you try to make a case for old prog being better and you use something from The Wall as your evidence?" But I decided against it. Good song, but not particularly exemplar.

Originally Posted by rammetal7 but Pink Floyd is Prog... Dayvan had nothing against me using that song as a example... maybe I should of used a different song, "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" maybe?

#4: Don Caballero: What Burns Never Returns


OMFG, best math album ever! (that came out a bit n00bish, sorry) Everything about this album is stunning, from Damon Che's eight-armed drumming to Ian Williams complicated, crystalline guitar melodies. This is THE math rawk album to get if you're new to the genre. If you don't listen to math rock, GODOWNLOADITNAO! but, don't get anything after American Don because it's not the true Don Cab, and is just Damon Che show-off crap, devoid of Ian Williams's undeniably epic energy, and wicked guitar playing.

The album opens with Don Caballero 3, a straightforward, stern song, with Williams' atonal guitar rambling, and Damon Che's mathy beats on the drums. This song has two distinct parts, the stern beginning, and the sunnier second part, with a much less stern melody, and is less atonal. The next track, Charging Bull (whose full title is over ten words long) is a fan favourite off of the the album. This song is very minimalist, but in a good way, with guitar ramblings that bring a tear to my eye. The 2:20 mark and onwards, is one of Math Rawk's best moments, with one of the best guitar lines in the history of rock. And my god, the drums on this album are so warm sounding, and pretty! I could go on forever about them! The next track, Delivering The Groceries At 138 Beats Per Minute, is a distortion filled, manly song, with a big, caveman-esque guitar line that just defines my laws of awesome. Slice Where You Live Like Pie, the mathiest, most confusing track on the album, is gorgeous, With it's distinctly minimalist guitar grooves, and ever-changing beats. I've never heard instrumental music this emotional, or complexly beautiful. Room Temperature Suite, is my favourite off of the album, with it's undeniably sunny, Spring feeling to it. It's so warm sounding, and it truly touched my heart. Also, there's an interesting story behind this track: my friend (who's a drummer) wanted to know what I listen to, so I put this track on. I have never seen somebody's brain melt at that rate before. She was a bit amazed by what time signature the bro on this record was drumming in. A truly amazing, alien track, in my opinion. The album's best. The World In Perforated Lines, the album's most sad, pissed off track, is the first Caballero song I've ever heard, and still amazes me to this day. I wish the track lasted longer, as it is the shortest on the album. From The Desk Of Elsewhere Go, one of the sadder sounding songs on the album, conveys feelings of pain, and despair without having a single word spoken. That my friends, takes talent. The last piece, June Is Finally Here, is truly beautiful, gorgeous and sunny. This song has special meaning to me, because my birthday is on June 3rd, and I would always play this on my birthday. Whenever I hear it, Memories of birthdays from the past pop up, along with feelings of love, happiness and anticipation.

This album is a math rawk classic. Everything from the album cover (one of my favourite covers ever) to the music behind the cover is pure gold. If you're new to math rock, or want to check out to see what the genre's hype is all about, try this album out. Only if we could try to make new Don Cab suck less'....

Originally Posted by rammetal7 but Pink Floyd is Prog... Dayvan had nothing against me using that song as a example... maybe I should of used a different song, "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" maybe?

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Originally Posted by jackhammer Nope. That would have been an even worse example. Pink Floyd stop being prog around 1970.

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#3: Tyondai Braxton: History That Has No Effect


No album cover to be found... sorry folks this turquoise thing is going to have to replace it. Anyways, this is a bit of an obscure album that a lot of you guys would hate, but I love. This was made before Braxton was in Battles, before he even mattered, and I must say, this album is beautiful, droney and takes a while to get used to. It's quite abrasive, that's for sure. Not a recommended download, because it's mostly an acquired taste.

The album starts out with the droney, abrasive (a sentence worth a thousand words) Great Mass. It's filled with distorted guitar, distorted voice and infinite layers of noise. whenever I hear this song, I zone right out. It's hypnotic. The next track, Haunt The Ghosts Who Haunt Me, Better, is a song that starts out with a simple vocal sample, and progresses to become some electronic, beatboxed, distorted masterpiece of interesting sound, with weird vocal samples that sputter out and repeat into infinity. The next track, (whose first name is just a long line of gibberish text) I'm Gonna Start Shinin' Bright!!!!!! is a long piece of odd distorted sounds carried off from the previous track. This is the album's most abrasive. The high point on the album, Raise Yr Arms And Cross Them, is a little guitar piece with a cello, and several weird unidentifiable noises. The next two tracks, (Search Party) 2AM, + (Search Party) 5AM are ink black, unpredictable guitar pieces, that shock you every time a note is played, due to the sheer a-rhythmic randomness. Listening to the Search Party songs while going to sleep is a bad idea, also. The next track, The Violent Light Through Falling Shards, is possibly the best on the album, with confusing guitar lines, buzzing-beehive drones and a flurry of random vocal samples in the background. The longest track on the album, Struck Everywhere, is the first track on the album where Tyondai's voice is audible and is actually singing words, although unintelligible. This is one of my favourite tracks on the album. It's filled with shimmery effects and more drone-esque sounds, And Ty's voice sings drawn out, glittery phrases, that are warm and fuzzy. I think Tyondai is the only person in the world who could pull this song off so perfectly. The album closer, Hold On To Distance, is the only song with intelligible lyrics. This song is filled with beatboxing, distorted guitars, and minimal synth lines. The song fades away and ends the album on a happy note, despite the darkness of the previous songs. I approve.

If you're truly curious, go and download it. It just takes a bit to get used to.

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