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I don't know if he could be counted as a genius, but David Rubenstein from New York punk band Reagan Youth definitely lived a tortured life.

I'll give a quick rundown (of what I read on Wiki):

- Was lobotomised after being severely beaten by a drug dealer in an drug deal.
- Began dating a prostitute and pimped her out to fuel both of their addictions.
- Girlfriend was murdered by a notorious serial killer named Joel Rifkins.
- His father accidentally ran over and killed his mother in a parking lot.
- Rubenstein commited suicide by overdose.

What a horrible existence.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

go ahead and start finishing sentences, it'll help. the first two are more widely regarded as geniuses and calling cobain a genius calls him into comparison with other geniuses, f.ex mozart & beethoven.

i was comparing the lyricism, yes. upon further inspection of lady gaga's lyrics perhaps i was wrong in that comparison but my belief that kurt is far from a lyrical genius still holds strong. i'd rather not dig up examples...


i'm not saying that. i'm saying kurt cobain isn't a genius because his creations/contributions did not imply such whatsoever. obviously your criteria for "genius" are much lower than mine, but to my knowledge "genius" identifies someone whose mind operates on a level that greatly surpasses simply being intelligent and creative, and their works show it.

let's see what outside sources have to say about genius:

From Wikipedia:

A genius (plural genii or geniuses, adjective ingenious) is an excellent intellect, excellent work or an excellent achievement. More than just originality, creativity, or intelligence, the adjective "genius" is associated with the achieving of unprecedented insight. This is called the spark of genius. The genius (the excellence, a noun) of a piece of work raises a perceiver's expectation.

From Dictionary.com:

1. an exceptional natural capacity of intellect, especially as shown in creative and original work in science, art, music, etc.: the genius of Mozart.

2. a person having such capacity.


You call cobain a genius because:

what does any of this have to do with genius, according to the definition of it? he wasn't even the first to do what he did, by your own admittance. touched one generation? good examples of geniuses i can think of off the top of my head have profoundly affected humanity for centuries.

PS. i don't listen to much classical music either, outside of a few contemporary composers - whom i'm not even sure if people consider "classical" (contemporary classical is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it) since i know little about it besides general things.

i've thought out argumentative posts & replies and you've come in here and said nothing but a personal attack and i'm the troll? shut the fuck up.

yea thats actually me in the avatar and i wont take no white boy fronting on the internet so watch yoself

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If you're going to be an old coot on the internet, you may as well learn the ways of the internet. Face-palm = "You're so embarrassing that I need to cover my face in shame because what you said was utterly embarrassing and ridiculous. It's not a prize. If you earn one, it's the equivalent of someone telling you you're a jackass. Plus other shit." (Used in a general context)

Welcome to the internet.
Enjoy your stay.

TheCunningStunt

I've seen worse..

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Ooh, Beethoven. Totally agree with whoever posted him. He wrote an entire book called the Heilgenstadt Testament (or something German like that) about how depressed and angry he was.

I mean, as someone who devotes their entire life to writing music and then garners outrageous fame and recognition for it, but then slowly goes deaf.... that's like the DEFINITION of tortured genius, musically at least.

lukew

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how has no-one mentioned Townes Van Zandt: tortured and a genius

I'm a huge Dylan fan but completely agree with Steve Earle when he said “Townes van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that” I couldn't agree with him more.

Halpert

Peter Doherty maybe?

TheCunningStunt

Someone who was relevant 8 years ago? Made 1 really good album and another one that was decent but a decline from the first, and then made a bunch of mediocre bland records ever since then.. is a genius?

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