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NSW 05-19-2010 05:06 PM

*Music Banter Hall of Fame: Induction Thread 6*
 
It's that time everyone...for the 6th induction into the MB Hall of Fame.

Below is the list of eligible nominees, and the rules in case you've forgotten them.

The nominees are:

The Residents

Iron Maiden

Jimi Hendrix

Creedence Clearwater Revivial

Mission of Burma

Ludwig Van Beethoven


How this works:

If you have over 100 posts under your name then you can vote, feel free to voice your opinions if you have less posts though.
There won't be a poll, votes will be made publically by posting in this thread. You can vote for yes or no as many times as you want, as long as there's an explanation for your vote. If you haven't heard enough so feel you can't decide you can abstain.
So a post here would look like....

The Residents: Yes, because....
Iron Maiden: No, because....
Jimi Hendrix: Yes, because...
etc.

The artists that get 2/3rd Yes votes for them get in, easy as that. Those who don't get in can still be nominated at a later date.

This'll be open for a week and a half, since people seem to be confused remember you are voting what YOU think should be in the Hall Of Fame, not what you think others would want or whatever.

Happy voting y'all!

Anteater 05-19-2010 05:20 PM

The Residents: Yes: Not everyone's cup of tea, but they deserve in for their sheer inventiveness, influence and decades-spanning body of work. One of the original avant-rock bands.

Iron Maiden: Yes: classic band who never cease to kick my arse.

Jimi Hendrix: Yes. No explanation necessary.

Creedence Clearwater Revival: N/A.

Mission of Burma: No. What's so special about them?

Ludwig Van Beethoven: Yes.

James 05-19-2010 05:25 PM

Residents-Yes one of the best and most innovative avant garde bands
Iron Maiden-N/A
Jimi Hendrix-Yes of course
Creedence Clearwater Revival-No Don't see them as anything special
Mission Of Burma-N/A
Beethoven-Yes can't deny his talent or influence

OctaneHugo 05-19-2010 05:56 PM

The Residents: Yes, because the amount of downright genius things they've done and ground they've broken is unmeasurable in number.

Iron Maiden: Yes, because they might just be the greatest metal band ever. They're the cream of the crop of the NWBHM which is the cream of the crop of metal.

Jimi Hendrix: Yes, because he was one of the greatest showmen of all time as well as one of the best guitar players ever. Despite not doing as much as most other artists he's one of the most unique and special musicians to ever live.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial: Never saw anything special in them, but I withhold a vote because I lack experience with their discography.

Mission of Burma: I've heard very little.

Ludwig Van Beethoven: Yes, one of the greatest classical composers of all-time deserves to get in. Wrote some of my favorite pieces ever.

RVCA 05-19-2010 05:59 PM

The Residents - NA, haven't heard enough
Iron Maiden - Yes. Run to the Hills? Number of the Beast? The Trooper? Such great rock out songs
Jimi Hendrix - Yes
CCR - NA
Mission of Burma - NA
Beethoven - Yes, are you kidding? One of the most influential musicians of all time.

clutnuckle 05-19-2010 05:59 PM

The Residents - Yes, from what I've heard they've definitely put more than enough interesting and provocative material out to justify such a position.

Iron Maiden - No, I respect them for influencing some bands that I enjoy, but I don't see a point in cheering on a canon artist that I've never myself enjoyed.

Jimi Hendrix - Yes, he has a sort of mystique surrounding him, and his playing style was highly entertaining.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - No, even though I am a fan of these guys, they are not worthy of such a title.

Mission of Burma - N/A

Ludwig Van Beethoven - Yes, I've frequently listened to his sonatas and was mesmerized. His influence is well-deserved.

Violent & Funky 05-19-2010 07:01 PM

The Residents: Abstain

Iron Maiden: Abstain

Jimi Hendrix: Yes, for being a boss

Creedence Clearwater Revivial: Abstain

Mission of Burma: Abstain

Ludwig Van Beethoven: No, because we don't talk about him here on MusicBanter enough

Necromancer 05-20-2010 02:54 AM

Creedence Clearwater Revival...YES!
 
Its hard to believe that no one has voted for Creedence Clearwater Revival, these guys have sold over 26 million albums in the US alone and they were only together for a short period of time from 1967 until a decline & breakup in 1970, they played the Atlantic Pop Festival and Woodstock, their set was not included in the film Woodstock or its original soundtrack because John Fogerty felt the bands performance was subpar.
Here are just a few songs they released in a 3 year span.
Fortunate Son.
Proud Mary.
Suzie Q.
Bad Moon Rising.
Green River.
Have You Ever Seen The Rain.
Who'll Stop The Rain.
Born On A Bayou.
Down On The Corner.
I heard It Through The Grapevine.
After the 70s breakup of CCR John Fogerty released,
Old Man Down The Road.
& Run Through The Jungle.
They were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 1993.
In my personal opinion CCRs music stands with the best in Rock & Roll history and has influenced the music industry for over 40 years.

Mojo 05-20-2010 06:06 AM

The Residents - Ill abstain from this one. I am nowhere near educated enough.

Iron Maiden - Hell yes. Influential, hard working and consistent band who have been as key a mainstream(ish) metal band as you're ever likely to get. Phenomenal live act who still sound tight to this day. No brainer.

Jimi Hendrix - Duh. No brainer also. A definite yes. In terms of musicians who come along, lean on what has come before them and still to a degree, turn a genre or a craft on its head by bringing things to the table that had rarely, or ever been seen or done before, Hendrix is a legend that deserves to be in any hall of fame.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - I do have some CCR and i like it. However i dont feel educated enough so im gonna abstain from this one too. This was very nearly a yes as i have a real feeling that if i gave more time to what i already have and maybe explore their discography a little more i would have no diubt. But as i havent, im undecided.

Mission of Burma - Abstain from this too im afraid. I know nothing.

Ludwig Van Beethoven - I dont listen to much classical music but of the few artists i have checked out, Beethoven is one of them and i have enjoyed him greatly. A yes for me.

TheBig3 05-20-2010 07:41 AM

The Residents - I'm saying no because I feel we move dangerously close to the Internet version of Rolling Stone with this selection.

Iron Maiden - No. I like what they've done, but not who they've inspired.

Jimi Hendrix - See "residents"

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - Yes but only because I think Fogerty contributed to the larger musical canon.

Mission of Burma - pornography for the paleo-hipster. No.

Ludwig Van Beethoven - I was no fan of the Nazi's...but alright, sure.

TheBig3 05-20-2010 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VocalsBass (Post 869532)
Its hard to believe that no one has voted for Creedence Clearwater Revival, these guys have sold over 26 million albums in the US alone and they were only together for a short period of time from 1967 until a decline & breakup in 1970, they played the Atlantic Pop Festival and Woodstock, their set was not included in the film Woodstock or its original soundtrack because John Fogerty felt the bands performance was subpar.
Here are just a few songs they released in a 3 year span.
Fortunate Son.
Proud Mary.
Suzie Q.
Bad Moon Rising.
Green River.
Have You Ever Seen The Rain.
Who'll Stop The Rain.
Born On A Bayou.
Down On The Corner.
I heard It Through The Grapevine.
After the 70s breakup of CCR John Fogerty released,
Old Man Down The Road.
& Run Through The Jungle.
They were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame in 1993.
In my personal opinion CCRs music stands with the best in Rock & Roll history and has influenced the music industry for over 40 years.

Thank Christ you've said this. I cannot imagine people haven't heard at least 10 songs by these guys. I suspect they have and don't know it. I just can't beleive there are so many N/A's.

I can handle "no" votes, some people don't have a fully developed frontal lobe - thats fine. But to abstain...no sin greater than silence when the world is burning.

Necromancer 05-20-2010 01:12 PM

I still have 5 votes left so.....
The Residents- Ive never heard of them before now.
Iron Maiden-Yes, I dont have alot of their songs in my collection but I have to admitt these guys are really awesome, if a heavy metal band was to be inducted then these guys are it, I never listened to them much back in the day but when I started to listen to they're music a couple of years back I realized what I had been Missing out on, one of the great metal bands if not one of the best metal bands of all time, I have to give credit to Maiden.
Jimi Hendrix-Yes, best guitarist to date and outstanding stage presence.
Mission of Burma- never heard of them.
Ludwig Van Beethoven-Yes, inspired so many other musicians through the years.

James 05-20-2010 01:13 PM

You can't vote no if you've never heard of them.......

Necromancer 05-20-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james44754 (Post 869661)
You can't vote no if you've never heard of them.......

of course not, I'll retract my votes, in to much of a hurry..thanks.

James 05-20-2010 01:18 PM

No problem :P

Violent & Funky 05-20-2010 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 869567)
The Residents - I'm saying no because I feel we move dangerously close to the Internet version of Rolling Stone with this selection.

Iron Maiden - No. I like what they've done, but not who they've inspired.

Jimi Hendrix - See "residents"

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - Yes but only because I think Fogerty contributed to the larger musical canon.

Mission of Burma - pornography for the paleo-hipster. No.

Ludwig Van Beethoven - I was no fan of the Nazi's...but alright, sure.

Tough crowd with no intention of abstaining I see...

Violent & Funky 05-20-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 869570)
I can handle "no" votes, some people don't have a fully developed frontal lobe - thats fine. But to abstain...no sin greater than silence when the world is burning.

Dude, I'm 19 years old. I'm not gonna vote on something I have no background with...

Antonio 05-20-2010 03:24 PM

The Residents-Abstain, haven't heard enough to judge

Iron Maiden-Yes, seeing their influence on the metal genre

Jimi Hendrix-Yes, i really don't need to say much else.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial-yes, they're really a sleeper influence in music, and like said above, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who hasn't heard these guys

Mission of Burma-Abstain, haven't heard enough to judge

Ludwig Van Beethoven-even though i am not much of a fan of classical music i will say yes. for a guy who's been dead for centuries to be as remembered and revered as he is is no small feat and quite honestly is what the HoF is made for

OctaneHugo 05-20-2010 03:56 PM

Why would you vote no to a band because of who they inspired? If Lady Gaga said her favorite band was The Who, does that mean The Who are terrible...?

James 05-20-2010 03:58 PM

That makes The Who even better!!

music_phantom13 05-20-2010 09:45 PM

The Residents - N/A I've only heard a few albums out of the dozens they've released so I'm not going to vote.

Iron Maiden - Yes. They are certainly a huge force in metal music, inspiring musicians through today, and were the greatest metal band from that whole NWOBHM. I don't like a lot of that scene, but there's something special about them.

Jimi Hendrix - Yes...

CCR - They are, imo, the gods of southern rock. A genre where I have a hard time finding artists I truly love. They just make the greatest feel good, down south rock that I've ever heard, and have a huge influence that I think is often overlooked.

MOB - N/A. I'm really indecisive, I can't decide if they deserve it or not.

Beethoven - N/A. I don't listen to classical music. Of course I know some of his songs, but I haven't heard much to compare him to and it's all very neutral to me.

Seltzer 05-20-2010 10:32 PM

The Residents: Yes, basically for the reasons Anteater stated

Iron Maiden: Yes, of course there's a place for the premier band of metal. Few bands are as influential, widely liked, hardworking, consistent and devoted as them. They played a big part in my high school life and I hope to see them live one day.

Jimi Hendrix: Yes, and I don't think this needs an explanation.

Creedence Clearwater Revival: Yes. I've listened to CCR for a long time and they seem to have this extraordinary ability to pump out classic after classic. But they were more than just big hits - they have a string of solid studio albums and Cosmo's Factory is stellar.

Mission of Burma: No. I like the band but they're not HOF material IMO.

Ludwig Van Beethoven: Yes. I don't bust out the Ludwig Van as often as I'd like but I've always been a fan, ever since I was a kid.

clutnuckle 05-20-2010 10:40 PM

The title 'Southern Rock' makes no sense for CCR. They aren't from the South and their music really has no southern tendencies.

TheBig3 05-21-2010 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutnuckle (Post 869923)
The title 'Southern Rock' makes no sense for CCR. They aren't from the South and their music really has no southern tendencies.

You mean no "southern rock tendeancies?"

They certainly have Southern aspects, like being born on the bayou, or riding river boats.

Astronomer 05-22-2010 08:00 AM

The Residents - Abstain.

Iron Maiden - No, because even though they are widely regarded as very influential musicians I've never really been a huge fan.

Jimi Hendrix - Yes... if I believed in God he'd be a black, left-handed guitarist.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - Abstaining because I'm not really into southern-esque rock but I haven't really listened to enough.

Mission of Burma - Abstain

Ludwig Van Beethoven - No, because although he is a highly regarded classical musician I've never really heard anyone on MB mention him until now and this IS the MB Hall of Fame. I never really got into Beethoven as much as I did with other classical artists either.

TheBig3 05-22-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralus (Post 870420)
Creedence Clearwater Revivial - Abstaining because I'm not really into southern-esque rock but I haven't really listened to enough.

Its got to be a conspiracy.

Insane Guest 05-22-2010 09:21 AM

The Residents - N/A

Iron Maiden - Yes, I nominated them, like them or not, you can't help but know they are influential, one of the best metal bands, and still going strong after 30+ years.

Jimi Hendrix - Yes. Like everyone said he is a god. Still inspiring teens around the world to get off their lazy ass, stop playing Guitar Hero, and pick up a real guitar.

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Yes, They might not be something special but in my opinion they have not put out a dull album, and have some good tunes.

Mission of Burma - No, I didn't know much about the band, put I pulled them up, an they just failed to amuse me.

Ludwig Van Beethoven - Yes. Are You Kidding Me?

FaSho 05-22-2010 11:30 AM

The Residents - No. Boooring.

Iron Maiden - Yes, extremely influential, and talented as well.

Jimi Hendrix - Yes, no explanation neccasary

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - Yes, because they're great.

Mission of Burma - No. I've never even seen them mentioned on MB until nominated.

Ludwig Van Beethoven - No, because although he is a highly regarded classical musician I've never really heard anyone on MB mention him until now and this IS the MB Hall of Fame. I never really got into Beethoven as much as I did with other classical artists either.[2]

NumberNineDream 05-23-2010 08:09 AM

The Residents: Yes.
Iron Maiden: Yes.
Jimi Hendrix: Yes.
Creedence Clearwater Revival: N/A.
Mission of Burma: Yes.
Ludwig Van Beethoven: Yes.

debaserr 05-24-2010 05:05 PM

The Residents: Abstain

Iron Maiden: Abstain

Jimi Hendrix: Yes. Great technically and as catchy as anything.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial: Abstain

Mission of Burma: Abstain

Ludwig Van Beethoven: Abstain

James 05-24-2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 870483)
The Residents - No. Boooring.

Iron Maiden - Yes, extremely influential, and talented as well.

Jimi Hendrix - Yes, no explanation neccasary

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - Yes, because they're great.

Mission of Burma - No. I've never even seen them mentioned on MB until nominated.

Ludwig Van Beethoven - No, because although he is a highly regarded classical musician I've never really heard anyone on MB mention him until now and this IS the MB Hall of Fame. I never really got into Beethoven as much as I did with other classical artists either.[2]



The Residents boring!!!!!! You kidding me?

WeeLittleHobbit 05-24-2010 05:50 PM

The Residents- The biggest YES vote here! Absolutely stunning, daring, innovative music.

Iron Maiden- No goddammit, I hate them, I hate what they've inspired, just utter ****e to me.

Jimi Hendrix- Uh, YEAH... Really don't need to say much.

Creedence Clearwater Revival- No, I don't find anything that interesting about their sound. Say what you want about Fogerty, but I don't like his music so he doesn't get my vote.

Mission of Burma- Abstain. I've never heard them, but their name alone is intriguing.

Ludwig Van Beethoven- I'ma say yes, simply due to overall influence. I wish I listened to classical, but nevertheless, this guy deserves a spot in the HoF.

WeeLittleHobbit 05-24-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 870483)
The Residents - No. Boooring.

I've heard them been called alot of things, but 'boring'?

TheBig3 05-24-2010 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeeLittleHobbit (Post 871248)
I've heard them been called alot of things, but 'boring'?

I asked the same thing about CCR.

lieasleep 05-24-2010 09:05 PM

The Residents - Abstain! What I have heard has really pointed out that they are special, but my lack of experience is holding me back.

Iron Maiden - Yes. Tentatively. Damn good band but are they REALLY that great?

Jimi Hendrix - Yes. Beautiful and ephemeral one second, hip thrustingly sexy at the next. Gotta love him.

Creedence Clearwater Revivial - I don't get why people on hating on these guys, great music, really solid classic rock. a good yes from me :]

Mission of Burma - Who?

Ludwig Van Beethoven - The master. yes.

mr dave 05-24-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 869567)
The Residents - I'm saying no because I feel we move dangerously close to the Internet version of Rolling Stone with this selection.

for this same reason i vote:

The Residents - no
Iron Maiden - yes
Jimi Hendrix - yes
Creedence Clearwater Revivial - yes
Mission of Burma - no
Ludwig Van Beethoven - no

Anteater 05-24-2010 09:42 PM

So it's better to be the actual Rolling Stone (CCR, Iron Maiden, Hendrix) and go for the painfully obvious than to appreciate The Residents in the context of this thread and their influence on non-mainstream music? How disappointing: this just goes to show how rampant both ignorance (They're not Indie or Post-punk related? Must not be important) and laziness (3 seconds on one or two YT vids shouldn't be a deciding factor for a band with 100+ albums) are amidst a supposedly mature and open-minded bunch of people.

WeeLittleHobbit 05-25-2010 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 871295)
So it's better to be the actual Rolling Stone (CCR, Iron Maiden, Hendrix) and go for the painfully obvious than to appreciate The Residents in the context of this thread and their influence on non-mainstream music? How disappointing: this just goes to show how rampant both ignorance (They're not Indie or Post-punk related? Must not be important) and laziness (3 seconds on one or two YT vids shouldn't be a deciding factor for a band with 100+ albums) are amidst a supposedly mature and open-minded bunch of people.

Thank you for for this, Anteater. I can always rely on you to defend artists like this.

I'm curious, how do the Residents relate to Rolling Stone? Sorry for my ignorance...

WeeLittleHobbit 05-25-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 871269)
I asked the same thing about CCR.

Notice that I didn't say anything about them being 'boring.'

mr dave 05-25-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 871295)
So it's better to be the actual Rolling Stone (CCR, Iron Maiden, Hendrix) and go for the painfully obvious than to appreciate The Residents in the context of this thread and their influence on non-mainstream music? How disappointing: this just goes to show how rampant both ignorance (They're not Indie or Post-punk related? Must not be important) and laziness (3 seconds on one or two YT vids shouldn't be a deciding factor for a band with 100+ albums) are amidst a supposedly mature and open-minded bunch of people.

no. more like when i look back at my own personal tastes the handful of Residents tracks that i've heard and liked don't outweigh the ones i've heard and said 'meh' about. Baja? and The Car Thief are 2 of the most played mp3s on my system, but that doesn't change the fact that they're part of a minority to 'my' tastes in regards to the group. so why should I vote yes?

if anything it seems there are too many people trying to prove some higher level of musicality by providing what is commonly seen as the 'right' answer in regards to what makes a grand connaisseur de musique. people answer like there's going to be a test on this later. THAT is where the comparison to Rolling Stone comes in, by forcing the expected - hey look! we're the internet! we're SUPPOSED to be high minded and celebrating nothing but the obscure and unsung from the mainstream.... :banghead:


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