What's the general consensus on Mike Patton here?

instereowhereavailable · 05-12-2010, 02:24 AM

I'm a newbie, don't hold it against me. I've been listening to Patton and all of his projects from the good (Faith No More, Fantomas) to the bad (Mike Patton solo/Mondo Cane) for most of my life. I know not everyone likes him, but is he generally respected here?

mr dave · 05-12-2010, 02:41 AM

yup no need for idolatry though. he's just a man after all hahaha

though i think i like Tomahawk best at this point. FNM is great straight across the board, i'm hit or miss on Bungle, gotta be in the right mood for Fantomas aside from The Director's Cut, Peeping Tom was poo aside from 2 maybe 3 tracks, still haven't checked out Lovage - hesitant after PT, General Patton vs. The Executioners is also ace in my book.

instereowhereavailable · 05-12-2010, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

yup no need for idolatry though. he's just a man after all hahaha

though i think i like Tomahawk best at this point. FNM is great straight across the board, i'm hit or miss on Bungle, gotta be in the right mood for Fantomas aside from The Director's Cut, Peeping Tom was poo aside from 2 maybe 3 tracks, still haven't checked out Lovage - hesitant after PT, General Patton vs. The Executioners is also ace in my book.

Lovage is good. It's different from anything else he is involved with. Tomahawk is great too. Peeping Tom was a disappointment, I agree with you there.

**Janszoon** · 05-12-2010, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by instereowhereavailable

I'm a newbie, don't hold it against me. I've been listening to Patton and all of his projects from the good (Faith No More, Fantomas) to the bad (Mike Patton solo/Mondo Cane) for most of my life. I know not everyone likes him, but is he generally respected here?

I guess so. I know I'm a fan. Though truth be told I'm not as interested in him as I used to be. Recently I even found myself slightly disappointed when he showed as a guest vocalist on an album I was listening to that was exactly the type of album you'd expect him to show up on and he gave exactly the type of vocal performance you'd expect him to give.

That said, the man has released a lot of great stuff over the course of his career and in my mind that includes Peeping Tom. I'm surprised by all the hate on that one.

TheCunningStunt · 05-12-2010, 06:41 AM

I think I've noticed that a lot of people around here like Faith No More, not so sure about Mike Patton as a soloist or person or whatever.. Although I'm not a fan of FNM.

MrBlueShirt · 05-12-2010, 09:04 AM

The album he did with Dillinger Escape Plan was awesome.

Irony is a Dead Scene was the name of it.

RonaldSays · 05-12-2010, 10:07 AM

Patton is a great vocalist. Probably one of the best out there. I don't always like all his projects but the man sure is creative. He just put out a new record "Mondo Cane" full of italian songs. Interesting to say the least.
And he's a good performer. He puts on a lively show.

ElephantSack · 05-12-2010, 10:49 AM

From what I've seen, Mike Patton is generally respected throughout the forum. Of course, not everybody was born to agree. Some people worship him. Some people don't care for him. Some people don't know who he is.

Mr. Bungle is my favorite project involving Mike Patton, seconded by either Faith No More or Tomahawk. Irony is a Dead Scene and General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners are both really good collaborations. Lovage is good if you feel like listening to something that's going to make you want to fuck somebody and then laugh your ass off. Fantomas's best work was Director's Cut, and that's really good. I also got one of his solo albums called Pranzo Oltranzista. It took a little while to grow on me, but it eventually did.

The only things I haven't heard from him that I'm aware of are Moonchild, his work with Zu, and I never really looked into Peeping Tom. I've heard a track or two, but that's about it.

sidewinder · 05-12-2010, 12:51 PM

I agree with much of what has been said here. I've been a Patton fan since I first saw Faith No More's 'Epic' video on MTV about 20 years ago. Then I discovered Mr. Bungle, then his other side projects and so on. At one time I definitely had the fanboy attitude of "Everything Mike Patton touches turns to gold." But then I heard Adult Themes for Voice.

What I always liked about him was not just his voice (though he is definitely my favorite vocalist) but also that his projects were experimental in nature, kinda wacky and different. I always look forward to new projects coming out, but over the years the wow factor has faded a bit. I'm sure some of it has to do with aging and being less creative, but also that I'm used to his voice and it's just not as impressive as it used to be (age again can be a factor here). It seems he either sings the way you expect him too (not really anything wrong with that - unless it's a new project in which it might be nice to hear a new approach) or he over-sings (Mondo Cane, to an extent).

Still I'm a big fan, but have come to terms with the reality that everything he touches does not in fact turn to gold. I yearn for something truly different again. I'd love to hear more Tomahawk (just lighter on the Indian themes, please), as the rock-based stuff I think is where he shines. There's more emotion and less chance of over-singing (ie crooning). I'd love another Lovage album, but it could end up on the level of Peeping Tom (good but not great). I'd love another Peeping Tom (there was supposed to be two), but it could wind up as tame as the first.

General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners - didn't do much for me really, though I should give it another chance
Kaada / Patton - This was pretty good but doesn't really have much replay value.
Maldoror - terrible
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene - awesome.
Fantômas - Love Director's Cut, rest is ok
A Perfect Place OST - A little underwhelming and short but not bad
Crank: High Voltage OST - This was actually a nice surprise, nice experimentalism and craziness, too bad it's a bunch of short tracks that aren't more developed.

Faith No More are one of the few reunion bands that I'd like to see record new material. At the same time, it scares me a little. I just feel like that's all I ever really wanted out of Mike Patton - for him to rock and spazz out once in a while.

hip hop bunny hop · 05-12-2010, 04:27 PM

Mike Patton is a man who puts novelty above quality, consistently. The bands that accompany his antics are generally ****, however that seems to be the point; make the music boring, dull and pointlessly novel so that everyone pays attention to the vocals.

His work with the Dillenger Escape Plan seems to the summary of his work; pointless, "look at what I can do!" novelty.

I wish him the worst.

05-12-2010, 02:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
instereowhereavailable Groupie Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 19	What's the general consensus on Mike Patton here? I'm a newbie, don't hold it against me. I've been listening to Patton and all of his projects from the good (Faith No More, Fantomas) to the bad (Mike Patton solo/Mondo Cane) for most of my life. I know not everyone likes him, but is he generally respected here?

05-12-2010, 10:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
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05-12-2010, 10:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
ElephantSack Man vs. Wild Turkey Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 948	From what I've seen, Mike Patton is generally respected throughout the forum. Of course, not everybody was born to agree. Some people worship him. Some people don't care for him. Some people don't know who he is. Mr. Bungle is my favorite project involving Mike Patton, seconded by either Faith No More or Tomahawk. Irony is a Dead Scene and General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners are both really good collaborations. Lovage is good if you feel like listening to something that's going to make you want to fuck somebody and then laugh your ass off. Fantomas's best work was Director's Cut, and that's really good. I also got one of his solo albums called Pranzo Oltranzista. It took a little while to grow on me, but it eventually did. The only things I haven't heard from him that I'm aware of are Moonchild, his work with Zu, and I never really looked into Peeping Tom. I've heard a track or two, but that's about it. __________________ OF THE SUN

05-12-2010, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	I agree with much of what has been said here. I've been a Patton fan since I first saw Faith No More's 'Epic' video on MTV about 20 years ago. Then I discovered Mr. Bungle, then his other side projects and so on. At one time I definitely had the fanboy attitude of "Everything Mike Patton touches turns to gold." But then I heard Adult Themes for Voice. What I always liked about him was not just his voice (though he is definitely my favorite vocalist) but also that his projects were experimental in nature, kinda wacky and different. I always look forward to new projects coming out, but over the years the wow factor has faded a bit. I'm sure some of it has to do with aging and being less creative, but also that I'm used to his voice and it's just not as impressive as it used to be (age again can be a factor here). It seems he either sings the way you expect him too (not really anything wrong with that - unless it's a new project in which it might be nice to hear a new approach) or he over-sings (Mondo Cane, to an extent). Still I'm a big fan, but have come to terms with the reality that everything he touches does not in fact turn to gold. I yearn for something truly different again. I'd love to hear more Tomahawk (just lighter on the Indian themes, please), as the rock-based stuff I think is where he shines. There's more emotion and less chance of over-singing (ie crooning). I'd love another Lovage album, but it could end up on the level of Peeping Tom (good but not great). I'd love another Peeping Tom (there was supposed to be two), but it could wind up as tame as the first. General Patton vs. The X-Ecutioners - didn't do much for me really, though I should give it another chance Kaada / Patton - This was pretty good but doesn't really have much replay value. Maldoror - terrible The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene - awesome. Fantômas - Love Director's Cut, rest is ok A Perfect Place OST - A little underwhelming and short but not bad Crank: High Voltage OST - This was actually a nice surprise, nice experimentalism and craziness, too bad it's a bunch of short tracks that aren't more developed. Faith No More are one of the few reunion bands that I'd like to see record new material. At the same time, it scares me a little. I just feel like that's all I ever really wanted out of Mike Patton - for him to rock and spazz out once in a while. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures. Last edited by sidewinder; 05-12-2010 at 08:23 PM.

05-12-2010, 06:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	I think I've noticed that a lot of people around here like Faith No More, not so sure about Mike Patton as a soloist or person or whatever.. Although I'm not a fan of FNM.

05-12-2010, 09:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
MrBlueShirt Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6	The album he did with Dillinger Escape Plan was awesome. Irony is a Dead Scene was the name of it.

05-12-2010, 04:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	Mike Patton is a man who puts novelty above quality, consistently. The bands that accompany his antics are generally ****, however that seems to be the point; make the music boring, dull and pointlessly novel so that everyone pays attention to the vocals. His work with the Dillenger Escape Plan seems to the summary of his work; pointless, "look at what I can do!" novelty. I wish him the worst.