Should musicians be on more than 30k a year

**Janszoon** · 03-19-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saddle_sore

Well this is where I was coming from. By 30K I meant Sterling, not Dollars (I think this equates to around $50,000 a year)

I just think that if someone is going to be having a relatively easy life writing music (not saying writing music is easy btw) then they should be prepared to sacrifice a stupidly high-earning income for a more modest one.

What if they are going to have a relatively difficult life writing music?

And why hone in on musicians at all? In terms of people with "a stupidly high-earning income" they are a pretty small group. What about CEOs? What about heirs and heiresses? What about politicians? What about financial investors?

Daktari · 03-19-2010, 10:32 AM

Wow, this really is a pathetic argument.

Saddle Sore, have you ever spent money on buying cd's or have you even splashed out and bought tickets to go to a concert? If so, you are probably just one of the millions who because they appreciated what the artist was offering, was prepared to spend some of their hard earned cash so they could listen and see the artist again.

Millions of folks buying albums and concert tickets adds up to a lot of dosh. Should all that go to the record company whilst the artist gets cut off at $50,000.00 as you suggest. That would not be right surely. The artist who is drawing in the crowds surely deserves a decent portion of the rewards for their ability to entertain people.

Another quick point. I think you will find that a lot of artists who fall into that huge earnings category do part with quite a substantial amount by contributions to charities and sometimes by taking part in benefit concerts.. just worth bearing in mind.

Peace and sensible thoughts, Gordon.

~~TheKingsOwn1~~ · 03-19-2010, 10:43 AM

if the artist is good enough i dont see why he/she cant make more

lucifer_sam · 03-19-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Daktari

Wow, this really is a pathetic argument.

Saddle Sore, have you ever spent money on buying cd's or have you even splashed out and bought tickets to go to a concert? If so, you are probably just one of the millions who because they appreciated what the artist was offering, was prepared to spend some of their hard earned cash so they could listen and see the artist again.

Millions of folks buying albums and concert tickets adds up to a lot of dosh. Should all that go to the record company whilst the artist gets cut off at $50,000.00 as you suggest. That would not be right surely. The artist who is drawing in the crowds surely deserves a decent portion of the rewards for their ability to entertain people.

Another quick point. I think you will find that a lot of artists who fall into that huge earnings category do part with quite a substantial amount by contributions to charities and sometimes by taking part in benefit concerts.. just worth bearing in mind.

Peace and sensible thoughts, Gordon.

One thing I don't think people are taking into account is the high cost-of-living for a musician. I'm not talking about hookers and blow, I mean the costs associated with touring and living in high human traffic areas. Trying to get by on 30k or even 50k in New York or Los Angeles is absolutely absurd, and I can imagine it would be similar in cities like London or Manchester. It doesn't matter if you jam econo. You still gotta eat.

To suggest that there should be a 30k cap on musicians' salaries is idiotic, especially considering most of them are well below that figure.

mr dave · 03-19-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saddle_sore

Well this is where I was coming from. By 30K I meant Sterling, not Dollars (I think this equates to around $50,000 a year)

I just think that if someone is going to be having a relatively easy life writing music (not saying writing music is easy btw) then they should be prepared to sacrifice a stupidly high-earning income for a more modest one.

the biggest problem with this logic is the idea that an individual's challenges are predetermined by the career path they want to follow.

would you call leaving your wife and 2 infant children home alone while you head off for 3 week stretches every month a relatively easier life than working 9-5?

or should we incorporate an age limit on musicians? NO ROCKERS OVER 30!

channel_islands_surf · 03-19-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Um, not really. The gap between what you think you know and what actually know is apparently pretty substantial.

Tell me, where was this site created? If it's like Youtube, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, MSN, blah blah blah then it was made in America.

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Also, only 15 posts and already insulting mods. You're really off to pretty spectacular start here.

Am I supposed to be scared? An internet message board moderator is the least of my concerns. You have no power over me in the real world and if someone talked to me like I'm some punk ass in the real world I'd knock their ass out.

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I don't even know where to begin with these remarks except that they are long on ridiculous assertions and short on actual content.

There is no content, it's all beliefs, ya catch my drift my man? You believe in "fairness" and all that crap. I believe people should have total control over how much money they can make. It's their life. The government shouldn't be breathing down their necks and just snatching their money to give it to people they're not even responsible for.

channel_islands_surf · 03-19-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Opportunity is about who you know. So, no, some impoverished kid from the projects or the trailer park does not have the same opportunities as someone raised around people with money, power and influence.

Bull****. My family went from lower middle class to upper class, I went to a horrible school district and then to one of the top districts.... there were kids in my old poorer school who went on to Ivy League and schools like USC, UCLA, Florida State, and Ohio State. Who you know? You're telling me they all know people in Harvard? And if they did, they'd be like yeah come on in to some punk kid just because a guy knows someone who works at Harvard? You are crazy.

You work hard in America in high school? You'll be able to get into Harvard, Georgetown, USC, whatever. You screw off in high school and good luck, but ain't no way I should be paying for your sorry ass when you can't afford to live. You had your chance, and you ****ed up. I was never the best student, but I'm 19 years old, not in college, and only have a high school diploma... I work construction and live on my own. I pay my bills, pay for everything, car, gas, cable, electricity, insurance.... no prob. At least I'm not mooching off the gov't and I'm saving this country money.

**Janszoon** · 03-19-2010, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by channel_islands_surf

Blah, blah, blah... I'm 19 years old

Thanks for summing it all up like that.

channel_islands_surf · 03-19-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Thanks for summing it all up like that.

Is that all you can come up with? Mark. You can't even come up with an argument so you go after something else. Typical liberal.

**Janszoon** · 03-19-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by channel_islands_surf

Am I supposed to be scared? An internet message board moderator is the least of my concerns. You have no power over me in the real world and if someone talked to me like I'm some punk ass in the real world I'd knock their ass out.

Why would you be scared? I'd think you'd probably just want to reign in the obnoxious behavior. For example, references to "knocking someone's ass out" = not cool.

03-19-2010, 10:32 AM	#82 (permalink)
Daktari Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Originally from Lancashire, England, lived near Largs, Scotland and now live in Rocky Face, Georgia Posts: 154	Wow, this really is a pathetic argument. Saddle Sore, have you ever spent money on buying cd's or have you even splashed out and bought tickets to go to a concert? If so, you are probably just one of the millions who because they appreciated what the artist was offering, was prepared to spend some of their hard earned cash so they could listen and see the artist again. Millions of folks buying albums and concert tickets adds up to a lot of dosh. Should all that go to the record company whilst the artist gets cut off at $50,000.00 as you suggest. That would not be right surely. The artist who is drawing in the crowds surely deserves a decent portion of the rewards for their ability to entertain people. Another quick point. I think you will find that a lot of artists who fall into that huge earnings category do part with quite a substantial amount by contributions to charities and sometimes by taking part in benefit concerts.. just worth bearing in mind. Peace and sensible thoughts, Gordon.

03-19-2010, 10:43 AM	#83 (permalink)
~~TheKingsOwn1~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1	if the artist is good enough i dont see why he/she cant make more