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Old 02-25-2010, 10:19 AM   #41 (permalink)
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None, I don't think any of today's bands will make the kind of impact The Beatles and all the others made.

I think that in 25 years we'll be talking about the same good music as we are talking now, it just depends a little on the trend I guess.
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Old 02-25-2010, 11:24 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The jury is out on the Strokes, for me anyhow. I like what they do, but what they do is starting to come off like a one-trick pony. Thats fine, but its like Ac/Dc where they have a couple songs people really like and then its just filler for the live show.

Your other three suggestions; Black Keys, White Stripes, and QotSA are likely contenders for endurance. I think most will be recalled by the dedicated few as i don't see any becoming the next U2.
I think U2's legacy split into two: Coldplay and 30 Second to Mars. They something to be said about one trick ponies. The Ramones in a way developed a signature sound but were also influential so I think there is room for The Strokes to be influential and to earn a place in history, even though that room is on fire from a lack of output. Talking about one trick ponies, borrowing from literature a way character is describe as being either "static" or "dynamic," I think of bands as being either of two types:

Static - A band like what you would call "one trick pony." They have a "signature sound" and hardy if ever stray from it.
Dynamic - A band that not changes their sound from the beginning of their career but produce something new for each album. Bands I think that not only developed a sound of their own but that experimentand changes musical directions throughout their career are The Beatles or The Clash. (Most bands take time to develope their sound, eventually hit a plateau in their developement and become static.)

Another categoty I forget to mention, but talking about The Strokes brought them to mind.
Sleeper Bands
The Libertines - Sleeper Bands are bands that become ever more popular through time. I feel Television is a sleeper band because I feel people today talk more about them now then back in their day when they were together playing. The Strokes are constantly compared to Television in magazines, I haven't yet come across any one of The Stokes mentioning Television as an influence, but anyway that is the favorite band of the critics to name drop. I think The Libertines will be the Television of the future. I feel critics of the future following the nod of future music-listening public will discover this band and compare every other to them.
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Interesting thread but I have a feeling it's unpredictable...

I guess there are some small differences between Europe and United States.
For example TV on the Radio. I hope I am not blind but I don't know them and I don't have a feeling Europe is talking about them.

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I actually agree with lucifer_sam here, Janszoon, and you know me to prefer RHCP BSSM and earlier. But their popularity peaked a couple years ago with 'Dani California' and 'Snow'. If you ask anyone from my generation about the Chili Peppers, you are much more likely to hear about songs from their last three albums than their first three, possibly even more famous than their biggest hit, 'Under the Bridge'. The proof is in the pudding:

Red Hot Chili Peppers’s Charts – Discover music, videos, concerts, & pictures at Last.fm

Other than 'Higher Ground', after quickly glancing over that list I don't see another 80s Chili Peppers song until 'Knock Me Down' at #83. The majority seems to be from the last ten years...
I disagree with both lucifer_sam and Janszoon and believe their popularity peak was in the 90s primarily with BSSM. They were headlining Lallapalooza, which was a huge deal back then, and that's when they started their big stadium tours. Their popularity fell off a bit with the follow-up because it wasn't very good, and then they regained some but their work became pretty mediocre. I can see the argument for their peak being the late 90s or 00s, I mean the masses do love their watered-down rock, but I don't really believe it.

And using the last.fm charts for the argument doesn't really work...was last.fm around in the 80s and 90s to track how many people were listening to them at that time? No...what you've got there is a sampling of the RHCP tracks people have played most since last.fm was created, which I'm going to assume was in the 00s. It's only natural for the more recent or current work to get more plays, as that's what the younger generations are discovering first, and older generations that loved RHCP when they were younger aren't playing those older albums to death like they were when they/we were young. Even so, you've got 4 out of the top 20 songs from BSSM...pretty good representation for a 19-year old album.

Anyway, this really matters not. Just sayin.
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I didn't say they were at their best. But that's when they got the enormous stadium venues, headlined major festivals, broke into the mainstream and generally took in the most money. It's like how people associate Pink Floyd with their Wall era rather than the prog rock they performed before that arena crap got thrown into the mix.
I don't think you realize how popular the Chili Peppers were in the 90s. They were already playing stadiums, headlining festivals, and very much a part of the mainstream. I would say it's their 90s-era stuff that's the equivalent of The Wall, their 00s stuff is the equivalent of Momentary Lapse of Reason. Sure their 00s stuff sold well, just like Pink Floyd's 80s stuff sold well, but that's not because they were breaking into the mainstream, it's because they were already a long established mainstream act at that point.
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I disagree with both lucifer_sam and Janszoon and believe their popularity peak was in the 90s primarily with BSSM.
That sounds like you agree with me then. I prefer their 80s output, but I definitely think the 90s was the height of their popularity and influence and whatnot.
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That sounds like you agree with me then. I prefer their 80s output, but I definitely think the 90s was the height of their popularity and influence and whatnot.
Ah ok, I was under the impression you were saying they were most popular in the 80s.

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+2! RHCP were one of my favorite bands growing up (and I'm a 90s kid)
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I don't think you realize how popular the Chili Peppers were in the 90s. They were already playing stadiums, headlining festivals, and very much a part of the mainstream. I would say it's their 90s-era stuff that's the equivalent of The Wall, their 00s stuff is the equivalent of Momentary Lapse of Reason. Sure their 00s stuff sold well, just like Pink Floyd's 80s stuff sold well, but that's not because they were breaking into the mainstream, it's because they were already a long established mainstream act at that point.
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That sounds like you agree with me then. I prefer their 80s output, but I definitely think the 90s was the height of their popularity and influence and whatnot.
So basically you are saying the Red Hot Chilli Peppers "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore!?"
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So basically you are saying the Red Hot Chilli Peppers "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore!?"
Yes. But if you think that actually relates in any way to that thread, then you've completely missed the point of that discussion.
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