The Official "Music Was So Much Better in the Glorious Days of Yore" Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

It is, after all, always only one person's opinion, and you know what they say about them...

I'll see you in hell?

[Trollheart]

Like assholes, everyone's got one.

[The Batlord]

One what?

[Mucha na Dziko]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Any parameters used to establish an objective standard of quality will be based on subjective preferences.

I don't believe that. I think you can "measure" objectively the quality of any art really.
The parameters being innovation in songwriting or production techniques, the complexity (or if lack there of "idea" or "invention") of the music and so on.

Taste is subjective, quality is not. One might like listening to Rihanna more than to the Beatles, but no one can say that Rihanna "makes" better, richer, etc music.
I think it's important to be able to distinguish taste from quality, and I'm not sure why most people aren't capable of that.

[Mucha na Dziko]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

One what?

"ass hole"

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

I don't believe that. I think you can "measure" objectively the quality of any art really.
The parameters being innovation in songwriting or production techniques, the complexity (or if lack there of "idea" or "invention") of the music and so on.

Taste is subjective, quality is not. One might like listening to Rihanna more than to the Beatles, but no one can say that Rihanna "makes" better, richer, etc music.
I think it's important to be able to distinguish taste from quality, and I'm not sure why most people aren't capable of that.

But what parameters do you use? Just because chords are arranged in an accepted sequence, or a certain key used in the song (like A Minor, so often) doesn't make the song "good". Good is subjective. Quality is also subjective in art. You could look at a Rubens or Caravaggio and be told this is amazing art, but it might not appeal to you. The same with literature. Moby Dick may be a classic, but I found it flat, lifeless and boring. Someone else would not. In the end, all you can say, about any art form, is coloured by your opinion. Even if you're an art/music/literature critic, that still doesn't mean you're right. It just means you think you are.

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

"ass hole"

No need for name-calling now.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Mucha na Dziko

I don't believe that. I think you can "measure" objectively the quality of any art really.
The parameters being innovation in songwriting or production techniques, the complexity (or if lack there of "idea" or "invention") of the music and so on.

Taste is subjective, quality is not. One might like listening to Rihanna more than to the Beatles, but no one can say that Rihanna "makes" better, richer, etc music.
I think it's important to be able to distinguish taste from quality, and I'm not sure why most people aren't capable of that.

Quality, taste, better, worse, richness, are all made up concepts that only exist inside the human brain. Black is better at reflecting light. White is better at absorbing light. Which is better? Neither cause that's a stupid question unless you're talking about specific uses of black and white or subjective taste.

[Plankton]

One thing I always look for in any music I like is talent I can identify with. Whether it's with an instrument, good writing, arranging, or what ever is being conveyed by the artist. With the title of the thread in mind, there's so much of it out there past and present and if I'm open to new experiences I'll get rewarded. Having a steel trap mindset like saying "...there will never be another artist as good as _________" is fear based if you psychoanalyze it enough, so it's all about being brave enough to let new things get the good chemicals to your brain instead of the same old familiar things. One thing I have noticed is that music has been homogenized quite a bit through the last 40 or so years. I attribute that to the digital age and the lessening effect of organic approaches.

[Neapolitan]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Like assholes, everyone's got one.

But what if you are a jellyfish? Technically you lack an anus.

[Plankton]

#jellyfisharepeopletoo