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02-21-2010, 10:09 PM | #61 (permalink) | |
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02-22-2010, 12:31 AM | #62 (permalink) | ||||
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02-22-2010, 12:44 AM | #63 (permalink) |
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Are you just trying to disagree with me? You reading so much into my post tells me you are. Maybe to you a decade/point in time could be considered better than another because it is known for a certain genre of music you enjoy. We can all look back in awe at grunge, but I promise you the majority of people who grew up in the 70s/80s probably detested it (much like how I feel about emo these days). But that is neither here nor there. I used the example of someone who had never heard music before listening to today's music as a simple frame of reference. Obviously, I didn't mean this applies to every human. For all we know, he could hate music in general. I also didn't feel the need to go into specifics about his musical journey, which I would assume would involve more discovery than just popping on the radio. Once he found the music he likes, he would find it magical, new, and totally original. Then, guess what? He wants a different band. Maybe something similar, maybe something totally different. After exhausting all his options on modern music, where to go? The past. And your French analogy was horrendous. Learning a language and indulging in something so universal as music are two completely different things.
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02-22-2010, 12:49 AM | #64 (permalink) | |
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The Game is a damn good album, I don't care what anyone says, but imo they went quite downhill after that. Innuendo is good though, and some of the songs are just heartbreaking. |
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02-22-2010, 12:57 AM | #66 (permalink) | |
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Personally, I agree with TheCunningStunt and I can relate because we are of similar age. My tastes begin with the alternative rock bands that were big during the 1990s. I have expanded the depth of the music I listen to by starting from what I know I like and exploring a little deeper. There are still plenty of great 80s/90s indie rock bands that I haven't given a chance, so I haven't really given a care to modern music. Sure, there are a few I have found that I really like--The Thermals, for instance--but it is usually a safer bet for me to just find a new 80s/90s alt rock band to listen to. My two main musical interests are rock with a funk influence and lo-fi/indie/garage/punk/slacker rock. Those seem like two genres that have seen better days.
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02-22-2010, 12:59 AM | #67 (permalink) |
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Wrong on all counts. You do realise Appetite For Destruction was in the 80s right? And AC/DC had Back in Black and Queen had The Game so it wasn't all bad for them in that decade, at least they had a good start. And Van Halen f*cking ruled in the early 80s, 1984 is awesome, shut yo mouth.
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02-22-2010, 01:06 AM | #68 (permalink) | |
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It is easy to say that Siamese Dream and Badmotorfinger are better in those terms, but there have nearly been 20 years between then and now. You forget they too had influences and many people like us would have been tearing them down just as we are right now with today's music. This is coming from someone who considers Siamese Dream his favorite album.
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02-22-2010, 01:11 AM | #69 (permalink) |
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Anyway, I think there's great music out right now and there will always be great music. But in general I think a lot of modern music is terrible, both in and outside of the mainstream, actually, especially what is outside of the mainstrea, indie kids have seriously run out of stuff to praise and now they're intentionally searching for the most unlistenable music possible just to show how contrarian they are to everything mainstream regardless of quality.
Good music is good music, people who judge music by what kind of f*cking label a band is on are just pathetic. Anyway, I'm partial to the 60s and 70s, a great majority of what I listen to is psychedelic, prog and classic rock. I enjoy a lot of pop music from these decades as well. Still, I keep up with all the decades and the 00s has had some great stuff, especially in the prog department. Still it's hard to ignore just how awful indie is becoming, and how so many of these bands take such great pride in their total lack of talent. Radiohead, Flaming Lips and Porcupine Tree, those are the main ones that come to mind. Last edited by boo boo; 02-22-2010 at 01:21 AM. |
02-22-2010, 01:51 AM | #70 (permalink) | |
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It's just with the benefit of hindsight, a lot of the terrible stuff--especially that outside the mainstream--has fallen by the wayside and been forgotten while the stuff with more (widely accepted) artistic validity has endured in memory. Combine that with the chance those records have had to age and secure themselves in both popular and personal consciousness and... well, there you go. Plus, there are two problems with the whole argument. One is that a phrase like "artistic validity" is almost impossible to really define on an interpersonal level without getting into a major debate about aesthetics. The other is that "modern music" is... well, so broad a term it's insane. The past decade or so has seen the music business (by which I mean people who release music, not necessarily the "industry"--I just can't think of a better term right now) splinter and fraction into billions of little micro-communities and styles. Because people have such easy access to so much music thanks to the 'net and the advent of HD radio, the "mainstream" practically doesn't exist anymore, at least not the way it used to. So, in a certain way, being dismissive of "modern music" as some kind of whole entity kind of misses the point of how the business, and as a result state of the art, is changing. It encourages more active discovery on the part of the listener, more of a willingness to see what's out there, rather than relying on the culture as a whole to move the way it did up through the '90s. [/$0.02]
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