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Old 02-26-2010, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Everyone seems to be talking about what is popular.
This is definitely an important distinction that doesn't seem to be being made much.

I mean, look at, say the Billboard charts for any given year and you'll find a hell of a lot of fluff--"Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies (1969), "Tonight's the Night" by Rod Stewart (1977), "To Sir With Love" by Lulu (1967) were all the #1 songs for their respective years--all music I'd wager that contemporary people complained about the same way we're all bitching now. And a large quantity of music considered the creme of the crop of their era was essentially unnoticed by popular consciousness at the time.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the past dozen or so years have radically shifted the way music is released and absorbed, as well. There's SO MUCH out there now, so much easy access to such a mind-bending array of different musical ideas, that any generalization about the state of modern music, especially to bemoan it for a lack of... well, frankly, anything... just seems like laziness. And not just laziness, but laziness attempting to justify itself with a comfortable elitism.

I wouldn't get on such a high horse about that, except that that kind of negativity in an artistic community makes it that much harder for that community to thrive. If one assumes that good music (however one defines that) isn't being produced, it's that much more unlikely one will find it when it is, that music doesn't get supported and ultimately either flounders, continues to live in obscurity or changes into something else, leading to more people bitching about it not being out there.

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Old 02-26-2010, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"To Sir With Love" by Lulu (1967)
To Sir, With Love is one of the best pop songs ever.
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Old 02-27-2010, 03:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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To Sir, With Love is one of the best pop songs ever.
Not to mention Sugar Sugar.... I mean it's ridiculously cheesy but it's catchy and stuff.

Not the best pop song ever or anything though.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I mean, look at, say the Billboard charts for any given year and you'll find a hell of a lot of fluff--"Sugar, Sugar" by the Archies (1969), "Tonight's the Night" by Rod Stewart (1977), "To Sir With Love" by Lulu (1967)
I don't get it, are you saying that those songs are awesomely fluffy or what?
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I got very pissed reading all of those... atleast they were all one post wonders anyway and will never be back again (hopefully).
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I actually like that one quite a lot too (actually I kinda like all 3 of the songs I mentioned). But my point about it stands.
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You know what was great and didn't stick around long enough: Pop-punk. I love this ****. Not really the pop over punk groups, but the rock bands with a little harder, more raw edge.

I love the **** out of things like The Atari's, Thursday, and Billy Talent (even MCR's Desolation Row was phenomenal).

It got all banged up when the emo kids had their **** hijacked by the guys taking a drag off of the Queen cigar, but for the most part it was an all too short-lived genre. Who knows, maybe it will produce better now that its back in the shadows.
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Old 02-26-2010, 10:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I love the **** out of things like The Atari's, Thursday, and Billy Talent (even MCR's Desolation Row was phenomenal).
I love Thursday and Billy Talent with zero guilt.
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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You know what was great and didn't stick around long enough: Pop-punk. I love this ****. Not really the pop over punk groups, but the rock bands with a little harder, more raw edge.

I love the **** out of things like The Atari's, Thursday, and Billy Talent (even MCR's Desolation Row was phenomenal).

It got all banged up when the emo kids had their **** hijacked by the guys taking a drag off of the Queen cigar, but for the most part it was an all too short-lived genre. Who knows, maybe it will produce better now that its back in the shadows.
100% agree.
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You know what was great and didn't stick around long enough: Pop-punk.


Give me more Alkaline Trio songs like that and I am a happy man...
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