Neglected and Overlooked Band Members

littleknowitall · 01-21-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Couldn't be further from the truth though. In most cases anyway without a proper bass line things sound terrible.

I'm not saying that isn't the case, I'm saying it IS but not enough people notice it.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 01-21-2010, 06:52 PM

I think not enough people notice it's the bass line that's making it all flow. But I hope at least that most people would be able to tell that something is missing, you know?

littleknowitall · 01-21-2010, 07:07 PM

You'd be surprised how thick some people are, Most of the gigs I do there will be five or 6 people through the night asking how long I've been playing guitar and telling me I need to solo more and turn up a bit thinking me and my guitarist are doing the same job. It's just how it is.

~~Farfisa~~ · 01-21-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by littleknowitall

You'd be surprised how thick some people are, Most of the gigs I do there will be five or 6 people through the night asking how long I've been playing guitar and telling me I need to solo more and turn up a bit thinking me and my guitarist are doing the same job. It's just how it is.

Most people don't realise that everything sounds like a ****ing train wreck when everyone wants to show off their skills. Well, Jam bands do this too, but they bore the living piss out of me.

Alfred · 01-21-2010, 07:53 PM

Adrián Terrazas-González from The Mars Volta

His sax playing added a whole new layer to the albums he played on and it's a damn shame that they asked him to leave when they toned down Octahedron.

Neapolitan · 01-22-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DiSTANToblivion

Also Kirk Hammett of Metallica is always pushed to the side because of the amount of ego Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield both have between them. Lars moreso than James.

But look how they treated Dave Mustain, "On one occasion Mustaine brought his dog to rehearsal. The dog jumped up onto the car of Metallica bassist Ron McGovney and scratched the paint. Hetfield allegedly proceeded to yell at Mustaine's dog and kicked it in anger." (source: wiki)

It's one thing to be overlooked, it's entire another story when one of your band mates are kicking your dog.

+81 · 01-22-2010, 01:38 AM

Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Metallica abuses the ears and animals!

DiSTANToblivion · 01-22-2010, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

But look how they treated Dave Mustain, "On one occasion Mustaine brought his dog to rehearsal. The dog jumped up onto the car of Metallica bassist Ron McGovney and scratched the paint. Hetfield allegedly proceeded to yell at Mustaine's dog and kicked it in anger." (source: wiki)

It's one thing to be overlooked, it's entire another story when one of your band mates are kicking your dog.

I seriously didn't know about that? That's just wrong...

Metallica seem to have a history of mistreating newbies and taking things a little too far I guess.

ElephantSack · 01-22-2010, 11:34 AM

In my opinion, the two over-looked members in Led Zeppelin were the ones with the most talent: John Paul Jones and John Bonham. Maybe if they had been as skinny Jimmy and Robert, they would have gotten more recognition.

Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden is one of the craziest bassists I've ever heard. Some of the basslines he comes up with are completely off the fucking wall. Same story with Justin Chancellor of Tool.

Ben Weinman from The Dillinger Escape Plan seems to be made to take a backseat to Greg Puciato because Ben isn't the frontman, although he is the only remaining founding member and probably the most prolific songwriter of the group. Not to mention being a sick fucking guitarist and one hell of a programmer. I don't know, depending on the press that gets out, this might be easily refuted.

TheBig3 · 01-23-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by littleknowitall

Bass doesn't always seem as fast and impressive and I think overall flaunts less which I think to the inexperienced eye leads people to believe it's a lot less difficult to play which deters people from taking any interest in what the bassist is doing for the most part.

I think its not an instrument that can stand on its own. When I was 13-14 I played bass. I did it so a bunch of my friends could have a bassist but when the gig ended so did my interest.

Unless you're designed to be super artsy, its tough to give the bass a good deal of melody. for young kids I think its too much to go on.

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01-21-2010, 06:52 PM	#22 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	I think not enough people notice it's the bass line that's making it all flow. But I hope at least that most people would be able to tell that something is missing, you know?

01-21-2010, 07:07 PM	#23 (permalink)
littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	You'd be surprised how thick some people are, Most of the gigs I do there will be five or 6 people through the night asking how long I've been playing guitar and telling me I need to solo more and turn up a bit thinking me and my guitarist are doing the same job. It's just how it is.