It's been interesting reading the cases for and against Joy Division's inclusion, which seems to be more down to age differences than anything else - hell I'd probably have had a hard time with JD if I hadn't been born after the punk ethic's assimilation into popular culture and our collective musical conscience.
I love JD for many reasons but it's all been said... you have to appreciate that they were free of the art school pretensions and self-conscious nihilsim of many of their post-punk-era peers.
The kind of morons that discount their music because it's 'gloomy' or 'depressing' fail to recognize the passion the emanates from these two landmark records, it's real grassroots stuff...
when I hear them I see drizzly Macclesfield, disenchanted youth and a hunger for creativity, as cliché as that may sound. The cold synthesizers, inept guitar stabbings and ofcourse the feeling-over-falsetto vocals - all amount to far more for me than what I see when I hear Led Zep (who WERE probably better than Blue Cheer) which is Robert Plant's hairy beer belly
And if these nominations are to be based on historical significance, as well as the overall tastes of MusicBanter, then I'd say Joy Division are just as deserving as Led Zeppelin - both were icons of their respective generations and are responsible for a hell of a lot of **** bands!
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