Music Banter Hall Of Fame: Nominations Thread

Brad Stengel · 10-11-2008, 02:48 PM

It shouldnt be counted since its fasho voting twice.

simplephysics · 10-11-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Stengel

It shouldnt be counted since its fasho voting twice.

Haha, troll fail.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-11-2008, 03:45 PM

Based on what little I have heard it's a no from me.

I keep seeing people talk about them in hushed revered tones talking about all these influences they have.
In fact a lot of these influences sound like they should appeal to me yet from what I have heard they just sound like one of many bands of this ilk.

jackhammer · 10-11-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Based on what little I have heard it's a no from me.

I keep seeing people talk about them in hushed revered tones talking about all these influences they have.
In fact a lot of these influences sound like they should appeal to me yet from what I have heard they just sound like one of many bands of this ilk.

They are not particularly original TBH but they take all the best bits of prog, ambient and Rock and manage to make a satisfying whole. I can definitely see many people being quite frankly bored by them and I'm not that surprised that they have divided opinion. For me they make exactly the music that I really like but i'm not blinkered enough to realise that they are not groundbreaking.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-11-2008, 04:01 PM

Well of course not everything can be groundbreaking so I won't hold that against them.
I think you nailed it when you mentioned them taking the best bits of other stuff. I think it's fine doing that if you can do something interesting with them and in this case I don't think they do because to me they just sound like your average 90s/00s rock band influenced by that sort of stuff.

I'm sure this will go down real well but I find this stuff to be basically musak with guitars.

jackhammer · 10-11-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well of course not everything can be groundbreaking so I won't hold that against them.
I think you nailed it when you mentioned them taking the best bits of other stuff. I think it's fine doing that if you can do something interesting with them and in this case I don't think they do because to me they just sound like your average 90s/00s rock band influenced by that sort of stuff.

I'm sure this will go down real well but I find this stuff to be basically musak with guitars.

Have you heard their early stuff? Quite a lot different to what they are about now. After touring and working with Opeth, mainman Steven Wilson admitted to taking a heavier direction and their output from this time ('99 onwards) does have it's fair share of banality. Earlier albums like Voyage 34 and Up the Downstair may float your boat a little more.

boo boo · 10-19-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well of course not everything can be groundbreaking so I won't hold that against them.
I think you nailed it when you mentioned them taking the best bits of other stuff. I think it's fine doing that if you can do something interesting with them and in this case I don't think they do because to me they just sound like your average 90s/00s rock band influenced by that sort of stuff.

I'm sure this will go down real well but I find this stuff to be basically musak with guitars.

I can't blame you for not liking them, you would have shocked the hell out of me if you did.

I can understand the main criticism of Porcupine Tree, while I don't consider them to be an imitation of anybody, their sound isn't too "unique". But I don't think that takes away from the quality of their music in any way. At least in my opinion.

I can't say how important a band PT will be in the future, or the impact they will have on this so called prog revival. PT have gotten pretty popular and are getting younger people interested in prog rock, so I'm very happy about that.

But I think what we really need is a band that can completely reinvent the genre of prog. The Mars Volta have come closer to this than anyone else, but everyone hates them, hipsters and proggies alike. Tis a shame because I think they're great, but it's to be expected when you mix two completely different styles like prog and punk together. The funny thing with prog fans is, they praise progressive rock for how revolutionary and innovative it was at it's conception, but today you won't even be considered prog if you're too innovative.

PT aren't innovative, they're just good, and they're just original enough, so they keep prog fans happy. Though I must admit I'm a bit suprised by how well recieved they are by prog fans because they usually whine like bitches whenever a band blends prog with pop, as Porcupine Tree does. But I think people are starting to miss the point of what prog actually is. Prog was very innovative in the early 70s, but then everything became rather cliche after that and by 80s until now any "true" prog band is expected to not really do anything different from the prog bands of the 70s, tis a shame.

FireInCairo · 10-17-2008, 05:39 AM

well, doesnt look like they are getting in.

FaSho · 10-17-2008, 10:38 AM

ehh easy come easy go

i'm ready for the next nom

sweet_nothing · 10-18-2008, 01:54 AM

When is the next nom up? If you dont have anymore I'd be happy to make some.

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10-11-2008, 02:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
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10-11-2008, 03:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,626	Based on what little I have heard it's a no from me. I keep seeing people talk about them in hushed revered tones talking about all these influences they have. In fact a lot of these influences sound like they should appeal to me yet from what I have heard they just sound like one of many bands of this ilk. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-11-2008, 04:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,626	Well of course not everything can be groundbreaking so I won't hold that against them. I think you nailed it when you mentioned them taking the best bits of other stuff. I think it's fine doing that if you can do something interesting with them and in this case I don't think they do because to me they just sound like your average 90s/00s rock band influenced by that sort of stuff. I'm sure this will go down real well but I find this stuff to be basically musak with guitars. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

10-17-2008, 05:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
FireInCairo Later on... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,235	well, doesnt look like they are getting in. __________________ O G MUDBONE: Only You can prevent forest fires.