Music Banter Hall Of Fame: Nominations Thread

Piss Me Off · 07-21-2008, 02:34 PM

It's a powerful yes from me, it's been said elsewhere here recently that Joy Division were exactly what was needed in Britain after the punk scene and i agree. Here were a band that took the elements of punk that made it exciting and blended it with their own unique imagery and style.
Musically they were brilliant, Stephen Morris' solid percussion, Bernard Sumner's in my opinion underrated and individual guitar playing and those basslines from Hooky. On top of that you had Ian Curtis, a frontman who should be celebrated simply because he did it his way and did it damn well.
I think the thing i love most about Joy Divison was that they created these huge sweeping epic soundscapes, making the music sound absolutely huge despite there only being a couple of people playing it.
Just as uplifting as they were brutally moody, they deserve to be in there.

sweet_nothing · 07-21-2008, 02:37 PM

^^^^I agree with everything Luke said

sweet_something · 07-21-2008, 02:55 PM

no to led zep.... YES TO JOY DIVISION.

sleepy jack · 07-21-2008, 05:39 PM

Yeah I can't say much more then what Piss Me Off's already said. That aside Love Will Tear Us Apart is the greatest pop song of the 80s that doesn't have Morrissey attached to it's songwriting credits.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-21-2008, 06:17 PM

Perfect band to follow Zeppelin, I really think they are pretty average and a lot of their music is pretty boring, but I realize there is a great appreciation for them on this site. I am leaning strongly towards yes but am going to give "Substance" another listen before I decide.

By the way great Posts, Lucifer and Piss Me off. That's what I envisioned this thread being about.

jackhammer · 07-21-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

Perfect band to follow Zeppelin, I really think they are pretty average and a lot of their music is pretty boring.

POT.KETTLE.BLACK. (Don't take offence!).

Son of JayJamJah · 07-21-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

POT.KETTLE.BLACK. (Don't take offence!).

None taken, I agree actually, this is why it's a perfect band to follow, my hope is that even though I am not a fan I can look at their work objectionably and decide rather or not i want them to represent our combined tastes.

And for the record, mines bigger then yours...

jackhammer · 07-21-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah

And for the record, mines bigger then yours...

It's 'Than' lol. In all seriousness. Kudos to you. JD are not for everyone and if they get left off the list for a good reason then I will hold my hat up. Basing their faults upon Zeppelin merits doesn't provide a good comparison to me. Both are British bands. Both influenced many bands. Unfortunately Zep influenced probably one of the worst genres ever in modern music-'**** Rock': Music that is based upon lyrical content, image and ideology.

Joy Division promoted introspection, lyrical revalance and art as communication and not a meal ticket. However, Zeppelin understood the nature of music perfectly and honed their craft to become an almost elemental force. Music is one of mans more baser needs and they tuned into that succinctly. Zeppelin were absolutely awesome at what they did....unfortunately some people prefer introspection to outrospection and that is where the problem lies.

Laces Out Dan! · 07-21-2008, 06:42 PM

I does not like the Joy Division.

Son of JayJamJah · 07-21-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

It's 'Than' lol. In all seriousness. Kudos to you. JD are not for everyone and if they get left off the list for a good reason then I will hold my hat up. Basing their faults upon Zeppelin merits doesn't provide a good comparison to me. Both are British bands. Both influenced many bands. Unfortunately Zep influenced probably one of the worst genres ever in modern music-'**** Rock': Music that is based upon lyrical content, image and ideology.

Joy Division promoted introspection, lyrical revalance and art as communication and not a meal ticket. However, Zeppelin understood the nature of music perfectly and honed their craft to become an almost elemental force. Music is one of mans more baser needs and they tuned into that succinctly. Zeppelin were absolutely awesome at what they did....unfortunately some people prefer introspection to outrospection and that is where the problem lies.

^ If I quoted posts for my signature, i'd use this one.

Music is absolutely a primal need, Joy Division deserves consideration based on their influence, but just as Zeppelin can not be excluded solely because they influenced bad popular music, Joy division can not be included solely because they influenced thoughtful (although good is sometimes debatable) music.

My biggest question is: ARE TWO ALBUMS ENOUGH TO GET YOU IN?

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07-21-2008, 02:34 PM	#41 (permalink)
Piss Me Off Moodswings n' Roundabouts Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: At the corner of Dude and Catastrophe Posts: 4,512	It's a powerful yes from me, it's been said elsewhere here recently that Joy Division were exactly what was needed in Britain after the punk scene and i agree. Here were a band that took the elements of punk that made it exciting and blended it with their own unique imagery and style. Musically they were brilliant, Stephen Morris' solid percussion, Bernard Sumner's in my opinion underrated and individual guitar playing and those basslines from Hooky. On top of that you had Ian Curtis, a frontman who should be celebrated simply because he did it his way and did it damn well. I think the thing i love most about Joy Divison was that they created these huge sweeping epic soundscapes, making the music sound absolutely huge despite there only being a couple of people playing it. Just as uplifting as they were brutally moody, they deserve to be in there. __________________ Last FM Rate Yr Music Muxtape

07-21-2008, 02:55 PM	#43 (permalink)
sweet_something Groupie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Amsterdam/Canada Posts: 4	no to led zep.... YES TO JOY DIVISION. __________________ La la last.fm

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Laces Out Dan! I love Puck Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: British Columbia Posts: 4,614	I does not like the Joy Division. __________________ We are entirely smooth, We admit to the truth, We are the best at what we do.

07-21-2008, 06:17 PM	#45 (permalink)
Son of JayJamJah Occams Razor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: End of the Earth Posts: 2,472	Perfect band to follow Zeppelin, I really think they are pretty average and a lot of their music is pretty boring, but I realize there is a great appreciation for them on this site. I am leaning strongly towards yes but am going to give "Substance" another listen before I decide. By the way great Posts, Lucifer and Piss Me off. That's what I envisioned this thread being about.