Music Banter Hall Of Fame: Nominations Thread

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

Captain Beefheart? Blur? My Bloody Valentine?

But Tool can't get in? If your reason for denying Tool is based on what should represent the MB Hall of Fame then why are the above bands in but not Tool?

They are a very influential band, even if most of the music they have spawned isn't necessarily good. But Tool is awesome, so who cares? They are clearly skilled musicians, who are very creative and bring a lot to the table outside of their music.

It's okay to have a modern alt-metal band in the MB HOF!

i think one of the largest problems people have with Tool is the image which they provoke from people as this pseudo-intellectual, drug-embalmed cultural virus that stains everything in their wake. and it's easy to get disenchanted with them when their fans project such rabidly moronic philosophies.

i can imagine the measured antagonistic attitude from people here but it's really all old hat from my perspective. hating on Tool is just about as imaginative as hating on U2 -- you really don't give a shit about the music, but damn is their frontman annoying.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i think one of the largest problems people have with Tool is the image which they provoke from people as this pseudo-intellectual, drug-embalmed cultural virus that stains everything in their wake. and it's easy to get disenchanted with them when their fans project such rabidly moronic philosophies.

i can imagine the measured antagonistic attitude from people here but it's really all old hat from my perspective. hating on Tool is just about as imaginative as hating on U2 -- you really don't give a shit about the music, but damn is their frontman annoying.

yeah, that's the worst when people can't get past that and just listen to the music.

[The Monkey]

I'm abstaining.

[Janszoon]

I don't mind Tool but I don't consider them particularly groundbreaking and unfortunately their influence seems to be only on a lot of really awful bands so they get the no vote from me.

[Alfred]

I'll go ahead and say yes. They've influenced a couple bands that I like (Rishloo and Fair To Midland) and if anything I think they deserve a shot. They'll probably get put out in the induction round, but you know, why not let them get at least that far? I dig what they do.

[Gavin B.]

I'm still wondering why mediocre alternative bands like Tool are being considered for the Hall of Fame when black performers like Bob Marley and James Brown have never been nominated. Music Banter members also have a poor track record in nominating female members to the Hall of Fame. Where's Patti Smith, Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders, PJ Harvey or Joni Mitchell?

As much as I appreciate My Bloody Valentine and John Zorn, I'm not sure that Bob Marley should have been bumped for their entry. My Bloody Valentine made a total of three albums over six years, one of which was exceptional. If you're going to select a short lived but influential guitar band make it Mission of Burma. MoB guitarist Roger Miller was experimenting with white noise and sonic landscapping five years before Kevin Shield came along and Roger did it with more passion and finesse than Kevin.

I voted no on Tool and I'll continue to vote no on every college radio alternative band until there is a better cultural balance of music in the Hall of Fame. I apologize for the rant but this whole Tool thing really hit a nerve for me.

[someonecompletelyrandom]

Originally Posted by Gavin B.

I'm still wondering why mediocre alternative bands like Tool are being considered for the Hall of Fame when black performers like Bob Marley and James Brown have never been nominated. Music Banter members also have a poor track record in nominating female members to the Hall of Fame. Where's Patti Smith, Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders, PJ Harvey or Joni Mitchell?

As much as I appreciate My Bloody Valentine and John Zorn, I'm not sure that Bob Marley should have been bumped for their entry. My Bloody Valentine made a total of three albums over six years, one of which was exceptional. If you're going to select a short lived but influential guitar band make it Mission of Burma. MoB guitarist Roger Miller was experimenting with white noise and sonic landscapping five years before Kevin Shield came along and Roger did it with more passion and finesse than Kevin.

I voted no on Tool and I'll continue to vote no on every college radio alternative band until there is a better cultural balance of music in the Hall of Fame. I apologize for the rant but this whole Tool thing really hit a nerve for me.

<---------- Because obviously I'm a racist bastard.

And calm down Tool is losing.

[Engine]

Originally Posted by Conan

<---------- Because obviously I'm a racist bastard.

You are clearly not a racist bastard, however, having a picture of a black man near you is not enough. Here's an ex. of what I mean: I had a college dorm roomate who was a racist bastard. Several people called him out for it and his defense was that his wall was full of posters of black football players which clearly means he is not a racist. So he was not only racist but he was delusional. The guy likes football. You like Hendrix. Neither proves racial tolerance. (just sayin')

And calm down Tool is losing.

I'm strangely invested in this contest now. Let's focus on Hope and agree that Tool just isn't great.

[music_phantom13]

Originally Posted by Gavin B.

I'm still wondering why mediocre alternative bands like Tool are being considered for the Hall of Fame when black performers like Bob Marley and James Brown have never been nominated. Music Banter members also have a poor track record in nominating female members to the Hall of Fame. Where's Patti Smith, Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders, PJ Harvey or Joni Mitchell?

As much as I appreciate My Bloody Valentine and John Zorn, I'm not sure that Bob Marley should have been bumped for their entry. My Bloody Valentine made a total of three albums over six years, one of which was exceptional. If you're going to select a short lived but influential guitar band make it Mission of Burma. MoB guitarist Roger Miller was experimenting with white noise and sonic landscapping five years before Kevin Shield came along and Roger did it with more passion and finesse than Kevin.

I voted no on Tool and I'll continue to vote no on every college radio alternative band until there is a better cultural balance of music in the Hall of Fame. I apologize for the rant but this whole Tool thing really hit a nerve for me.

I just think I need to point out that it sounds very hypocritical to call out Music Banter for not putting bands with black or female members in the hall of fame, and then in the very same post tell us that instead of MBV (who have female members) we should have elected MoB (4 white guys). And I agree Tool doesn't belong in the hall of fame, but apparently the community as a whole does not.

Oh, and Public Enemy was inducted, Chuck Berry and Wu Tang Clan were nominated, and Bad Brains is waiting for the potential to be inducted.

[someonecompletelyrandom]

Originally Posted by music_phantom13

Oh, and Public Enemy was inducted, Chuck Berry and Wu Tang Clan were nominated, and Bad Brains is waiting for the potential to be inducted.

And I'm planning on nominating The Notorious B.I.G and Michael Jackson soon.