Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 12-09-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

But its not for Rock musicians. Its for Rock and Roll musicians by your deinifiton.

And it should only exclude them if you're basing it on the musical deinfition of R&R.

Don't you think that's a bit tedious? Tis called the R&R Hall of Fame but I think the buck should stop when a completely unrelated genre such as Hip-Hop is included. Which I think is what Monkey is saying.

TheBig3 · 12-09-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Don't you think that's a bit tedious? Tis called the R&R Hall of Fame but I think the buck should stop when a completely unrelated genre such as Hip-Hop is included. Which I think is what Monkey is saying.

Alright well I don't walk down this path because I assume we've all been down it before and can move beyond it but...

are you aware of how thin the grey line is when we get down to it. Alright so Shinedown and Eminem don't sound anything alike.

What about Korn and Crazy Town? What about Cyprus Hill or the Beastie Boys? The RHCPs? Are the Talking Heads R&R? Vampire Weekend? Paul Simon and Bruce Springsteen?

Rock and Roll has never been about guitars. Its about a revolution. When people scream rock and roll in a Detroit parking lot from the roof of their T-bird they don't give a **** about what chrod structure is going on.

The Monkey · 12-09-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

But its not for Rock musicians. Its for Rock and Roll musicians by your deinifiton.

And it should only exclude them if you're basing it on the musical deinfition of R&R.

Well, the line between rock and roll and rock is very vague, if it exists at all. Besides, The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sounds better than The Rock Hall of Fame. I'm not suggesting a narrow interpretation, but I think most can agree that ABBA and LL Cool J aren't rock and roll.

CanwllCorfe · 12-09-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iron9567

Any opinions on the nominee list for 2010 for H.O.F?
2010 nominees

The 2010 nominees for the performers category were announced on September 23, 2009. Five inductees will be announced in January 2010, and inducted at a ceremony in New York on March 15.[90]

* ABBA
* The Chantels
* Jimmy Cliff
* Genesis
* The Hollies
* Kiss
* LL Cool J
* Darlene Love
* Laura Nyro
* Red Hot Chili Peppers
* Donna Summer
* The Stooges

I like Red Hot Chili Peppers.. kinda. They remind me of the 90s which is always a plus. Californication brings back a lot of memories. I liked that stuff more than uh.. Dani California? Maybe because wikipedia tells me they incorporated "themes of lust, death, contemplations of suicide, and drugs". Yeah that's right up my alley

TheBig3 · 12-09-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

Well, the line between rock and roll and rock is very vague, if it exists at all. Besides, The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sounds better than The Rock Hall of Fame. I'm not suggesting a narrow interpretation, but I think most can agree that ABBA and LL Cool J aren't rock and roll.

I don't think there's that fine a line. What they play on the radio today is not Rock and Roll and the closest thing I've seen recently is is the Foxboro Hottubs. Otherwise I've not heard anything thats reasonably close.

music_phantom13 · 12-09-2009, 08:57 PM

ABBA's probably being inducted because they're the best selling band of all time. I think KISS deserve to get in as well, they were/are gods to a lot of people. For the most part though, I don't really pay that much attention to the Hall of Fame myself because it's mostly music I don't enjoy all that much. Besides, if we're being honest here, having a bunch of musicians choose who belongs is a horrible way to do it. You'll end up with a hall of fame filled with bands like Dinosaur Jr, The Pixies, Pavement, Guided By Voices, and the likes. Don't get me wrong, that would be really cool, but I think Hall of Fame is something meant to appeal to the popular people; a band that's become not just famous but legendary and had a huge impact on popular music that lots of people listen to. Just my opinion though.

mr dave · 12-09-2009, 11:38 PM

getting pissed off at a hall of fame is like getting pissed off at your dog for licking its balls, it's gonna happen whether you like it or not.

kind of nuts to see the chili peppers up there, really surprised Genesis and KISS aren't already in, especially in Genesis' case.

asshat · 12-09-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by iron9567

In 1991 the band Ike and Tina Turner were inducted into the H.O.F. Are you freaking kidding me. I wonder who Ike had to slap to get this. Anyone have any idea why they truly deserve this. Then please educate me on this debacle.

They deserve it because they played nutbush city limits. Ike and Tina were actually good, in spite of Ike's wife beatin' .

adidasss · 10-31-2021, 07:53 AM

I'm totally confused about this concept. From the little I read about it, at some point some millionaire decided to build a random Museum dedicated to rock and roll artists and ever since then there are random and much publicized "inductions" and it's some kind of important thing even though I don't understand why. Isn't it there primarily to generate profit? Isn't it as an idea really antiquated and kind of lame? Why am I reading today about Paul McCartney giving a tribute to Dave Grohl for his "induction". How much are these people getting paid for all this bullshit?

DianneW · 11-01-2021, 01:23 PM

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music_phantom13 Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 942	ABBA's probably being inducted because they're the best selling band of all time. I think KISS deserve to get in as well, they were/are gods to a lot of people. For the most part though, I don't really pay that much attention to the Hall of Fame myself because it's mostly music I don't enjoy all that much. Besides, if we're being honest here, having a bunch of musicians choose who belongs is a horrible way to do it. You'll end up with a hall of fame filled with bands like Dinosaur Jr, The Pixies, Pavement, Guided By Voices, and the likes. Don't get me wrong, that would be really cool, but I think Hall of Fame is something meant to appeal to the popular people; a band that's become not just famous but legendary and had a huge impact on popular music that lots of people listen to. Just my opinion though.

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