I'm not interested in what people play in mainstream douche establishments and house parties that currently play pop-rap and pseudo-hardcore garbage. :p: The music may change but the people will remain the same.

The "electronic era" was the late 90s.

What? Wigger era? Didn't that last for like a year in the early 2000s?

I think it's been going on the last two decades.

And here I thought it ended with Limp Bizkit.

Perhaps. I was thinking of the general population, oops.

Oh you mean like kids dressing wigger? Well I guess we don't get much of that down here. We do get a lot of beltbuckles and hipsters though.

Im pretty sure we can name the 2000-onwards era the 'MTV' era.

Or maybe the 'rich ass producers get actors to strum on guitars and sing along to music written by some guy who got paid about 20 bucks per song' era.

Oldest cliche in the book! Whether or not it's true, I have no idea.

As others have said, unfortunately we currently lack the privilege of retrospection and hindsight that brings with it analysis and compartmentalisation. I think this decade will become known for the growth in power of the internet and the galvanising effect it had on self-promotion, empowering th individual as oppose to the company if you will.

As i said, we do not have the luxury of hindsight yet so i cant say whether the internet has blurred the presence of time and space(obviously we know this to be true in terms of communications, but for music i'm not sure) , the media publifications that contribute a great deal to the genre mill have seen their influence weakened due to the increased accessibility of music, so readers arent turning to NME for the next album (and ubiqitous classification)) to buy. They're discovering and downloading them for themselves from the comforts of their own room, as opposed to going out and participating in the ritual of buying and sharing music with people face to face. That's how movements would start, with the gathering of like-minded people, and im not sure if this is taking place anymore to such an extent.

It'll be interesting to see what this decade means to people in 10 years.

But that's where I think you're wrong. I think the we've simply moved from buying and sharing music face to face to the realm of the internet. I mean, look at what we do here at MB... share music, discuss music, discuss trends... etc. The gathering of like minded people has never been easier now that a punk from china can talk to a punk from Rhode Island.

I think musical movements have simply found their niche in the online world instead of the physical one.

This is what I'd like to see come of this decade, which to me seems more revolutionary than any of the previous...

Most people discover music online, which I think it'll eventually lead to a more eclectic society of music fans not nessicarily associated with any one particular movement... instead, they'll leave movement and genre breeding to the musicians and they'll become exactly that - musical styles, rather than any particular fashion or attitude along with them.

only if the 80s never happened. :rolleyes:

seems to me MTV and 'music television' in general finally lost all relevancy to new music around 2001

...and if MTV played music.

The reason i said 'to an extent' at the end of my post was because i'd already taken what you're saying into account, and i agree that there is this virtual world that now exists wherein micro-societies can develop and share. However, i do not think it has the same potency or impact as when this takes place in the real world, because ultimately you are aware that you're in a room on your own isolated and detached from those you are sharing with, and this idea of belonging just isnt as powerful as when you are actually in the flesh experiencing something with other people.

This is beginning to veer off topic, i agree with you in that i think the whole notion of genre and 'era' is blurring because of the internet. Movements and periods in musical history have been dictated by the relationships with the status Quo (charts, mainstream TV etc), even in what is dominating the masses or in what is eschewing them altogether as alternative, 'underground' and subverting. These days people are just illegally downloading songs and albums for free, you wont have the documented history to fall back on soon.

What about Lady Gaga and the whole electropop craze that's starting to happen now?

general rule of thumb is if it's happening in the mainstream the people who don't give a crap about it anymore have already been aware of what it's pimping for about a decade.

Goldfrapp was way WAY cooler than Lady Gaga, and Add N to (X) demolishes anything i've heard from the current electropop 'craze'

lol first post from you that's ever pissed me off.

/gaga fanboy

i thought i was already on the short list of enemies of your church? hahaha

That's only because your practice of free speech could have potentially undermined the stability of my rule.

I'm pretty sure we can name 1981-onwards the "MTV era".

Amen to everything you just said.

I think it's a little soon to define the next era. I think this decade personally will be referred to the electronic decade. Geez - pop, hip hop and r&b are all about electronic repeating syllables. (Umbrella-ella-ella) (To the left, to the left) (Can't read my, can't read my, no you can't read my poker face) and god the list goes on.

Don't forget artists flaunting the fact they can spell:
"I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T, do you know what that means, man?"
or
"G-L-A-M-O-R-O-U-S!"

Gag me.

I'd mention about 1,000 songs from previous decades that followed the same format but I don't even know where to start.

In the early 80's there was still a lot of experimental stuff, they were still developing and blending music styles from 70's Punk, New Wave, 70's Techno, Funk, Soul and Ska. In the early 80's one-hit-wonders replaced the big acts of the 70s Bee Gee's and big names in Disco, but then the one-hit-wonders were replace by acts like Michael Jackson and Madonna Ciccone, and Glam & Hair Metal. I never really watched MTV so imo they never had any relevancy. But I felt they killed music by making it uber-commercialize commodity. With the exception of a few things in the early 80's, the decade was a total bust, it's enough to make me wish MTV never happened.

WUT? Dunno what you've been puffing, but the later 80's had all sorts of great shit around, such as Tears for Fears, Level 42, It Bites, Venom, Prince, Celtic Frost, Megadeth, Dead Can Dance, and another half dozen others from a myriad of genres that wouldn't be caught dead on MTV in any way, shape or form. People who only think the 80's were good for New Wave and post-punk have no clue what they're talking about.

Maybe the music we listen to is in itself an era, but we're in it's early stages. And we can't find out or define what era/genre the 00's. Think about it there is more music available then ever before. We can't really categorize this era of musick!

Something will stand out. Most likely something bad. It's too early to tell. End thread.

alright, lets call it the 'rich ass producers get actors to strum on guitars and sing along to music written by some guy who got paid about 20 bucks per song' era then.

And this is different from the past half century how?

Spoken exactly like someone who has no idea what they're talking about.

With pleasure.

Do you people honestly think people are gonna look back fondly on Kanye & Co.? This decade will be remembered for the indie scene. End of story.

Agreed. I even went as an indie kid for Halloween. People commented on what I wore.. maybe it's a bit early too early as a stereotype I guess.

Indie played a huge part in the 00s of course, but I feel that this decade was all about the trip-hop.

[QUOTE=Dave.r2009;778416]What ever happened to the era that would come into music every couple of years or so.

in the 60's we had the british invasion, psychedelical rock era
in the 70's we had the hard rock, glam rock, progressive,punk era's
in the 80's the new wave and hair band era's
in the 90's the grunge and britpop era.



QUOTE]



It's called post-modernism my friend. We now just semi-ironically reference everything that has ever been done, in an effort to recycle.

Trip-hop was much more of a 90s thing, basically all the real landmark trip-hop albums were in that decade not this one.

You're right on that, but somehow I feel the trip-hop's presence in this decade is much bigger (not meaning by quality here, but by how it has gotten much popular and acknowledged by the public).

Has it? It seemed like it was more popular in the 90s to me. Groups like Massive Attack actually had albums that charted back then. I can't really think of any trip-hop that's made the charts this decade.

I don't see how trip-hop has really gotten popular enough to define a decade. In the grand scheme of things, there are very few albums that fit that category. Even fewer that are well known. Even if you include instrumental trip-hop and a lot of downtempo.

I have no idea what the 00's will be defined as. Honestly I'm starting to think an era isn't defined by what actually goes on in the decade in question as much as what happens in the next decade. I think if we were to have a total collapse of all pop music and there was a huge surge of underground music being given away for free, for example, then this era would be defined as the pop era- because there was a lot of popular pop and then there wasn't. On the other hand, if pop music gets more popular and underground music all becomes mainstream and cheesy, then this decade would be defined as the underground era before the big pop movement.

In the future, if I had to guess, I think music will eventually become free and artists will just be playing gigs for money. I have no idea how that will effect the music though. It could go in pretty much any direction at this point, but whatever happens, I think it would have to be on a notable scale. Whatever the mass of people do this decade and the next, that's what will be most likely to define the era.