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Old 11-20-2009, 10:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Pretty much everything you mentioned there is very much late 90s/early 00s and in the case of Marilyn Manson you're talking about someone whose peak was actually in the mid 90s. It's true some of that music lingered into the 00s like some 80s music lingered into the 90s, but there has definitely been an 80s revival going on this entire decade. Check out any one these people who were releasing retro 80s sounding music in the first part of this decade (and even in the late 90s in some cases) for reference:
  • The Strokes
I always thought The Strokes were more influenced by (or played music in the style of) 70's music, e.g. proto punk, post punk, art punk and power pop bands, but blended with a modern and/or futuristic sound. Most of the early music of the 80's was pioneered during the 70's anyway, like New Wave. The way I look back at the 80's is there was a paradigm shift, MTV came along and killed the Rock and Roll Zeitgeist of musical experimentation. If Rip Van Winkle was born in the 50's and fell asleep during 1980 and suddenly woke up today I think he would be hard press to say any of the good music has progressed since what he heard during the 70's.
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Old 11-21-2009, 01:28 AM   #32 (permalink)
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If Rip Van Winkle was born in the 50's and fell asleep during 1980 and suddenly woke up today I think he would be hard press to say any of the good music has progressed since what he heard during the 70's.
then i would get his foolish self away from the front of the tv and show him how to use youtube.

then again, what would be considered 'the good music'?
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Old 11-21-2009, 07:16 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I always thought The Strokes were more influenced by (or played music in the style of) 70's music...
I agree but nevertheless they have also released 80s sounding music ("12:15" for example) and did so in the early 00s.
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I am impressed by some of the vocals coming out these days and i hope progressive rock explodes soon. The Mars Volta has been tearing it up for a few years now...the volta and Bands like them need a big break
I don't want it to explode. There are a lot of great prog bands right now, a really strong movement. We all know what happens when genres explode. Over-saturation and watering down of the style. No thanks. Keep the good shit sub-level. I'm not saying I don't want good bands to get recognized. But just look what happened to punk, emo, and many types of electronic to a lesser extent.
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Old 11-22-2009, 12:28 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I agree but nevertheless they have also released 80s sounding music ("12:15" for example) and did so in the early 00s.
Just because the "12:15" video was film in an actual real tank from "Tron" doesn't necessarily make the music 80's - nice try though.
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Just because the "12:15" video was film in an actual real tank from "Tron" doesn't necessarily make the music 80's - nice try though.
I've never seen the video. It's the song itself that I'm talking about. But if the video looks like what you describe then I guess that just highlights the fact that the Strokes themselves are aware that the song sounds like an 80s throwback.
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I've never seen the video. It's the song itself that I'm talking about. But if the video looks like what you describe then I guess that just highlights the fact that the Strokes themselves are aware that the song sounds like an 80s throwback.
But it's not like they strickly adhere to the whole 80's sci-fi motiff. The band was beamed aboard the tank. That means they were using special efffects used in Star Trek and someone in the 70's would be fully aware of Star Trek 60's vision of future technology of being beamed by the Transporter not the kind of technology they had in the 80's like they used in Tron where the people were atomized by a laser and then reconstructed inside a computer, where the people materialized the same way a graphic artist would create CGI.
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