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Old 11-16-2009, 07:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is Classical Music considered to be inherently superior to all else?

Is it? Or is there any modern music that can hold up? Can John Williams's work, for example, compare to that of any classical composer?
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They stopped making good music the day the Holy Roman Empire fell.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Frank Zappa is much more fun though. Like beauty; music is in the ears of the beholder or something like that.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Is it? Or is there any modern music that can hold up? Can John Williams's work, for example, compare to that of any classical composer?
why wouldn't it?

you could compare Iron Maiden to classical if you wanted to and IM could come out on top depending on the criteria of the comparison.

to consider one style of music superior to any other style is inane.
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@ OP,

Music superiority is specifically limited to human perspective. So it follows that if a group of people consider a certain type of music to be superior, then to that group, it is.
This applies to every type of music.

The only way to determine what the majority of people consider "superior" is to look at statistics based on people's music opinions.
And if you want to give up the only thing that you're entitled to have that can't be fucked with (aka, your opinion/belief) and let someone else (aka the mass opinion) influence it, then go ahead.

But regarding music, the true answer resides in your own opinion. The moment you let someone else tell you what to think about something, that's when you're classified as a tool.
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Music superiority is specifically limited to human perspective.
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lmao.
You obviously have a very limited expanse of comprehensive ability. Or you're just trolling.
I vote 1 & 2.
yeah, obviously i do, considering i found your painfully self-evident and pretentious post hilarious. no shit its "specifically limited to the human perspective," so is everything else. you basically said "music is subjective," in this self-righteously wordy style you so often employ. thanks for the insight though, you're a real deep dude.
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no shit its "specifically limited to the human perspective," so is everything else.
Cat poop isn't.
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Cat poop isn't.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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But in the professional world (fields that study music like ethnomusicology) classical music is often considered the only form of music, with a lot of people in the academic refusing to acknowledge even jazz as intelligent music. So by their viewpoint, no there is not. This is ironic to me, because I would expect those people to be open minded.
Your description of classical music lovers made me smile because it perfectly matches someone I know. He *despises* jazz and other modern music as insipid, lacking the complexity and refined structure of Bach. Rock music, he complains (with a rare show of animated disgust), is just a simplistic, repetitive "BOOM BOOM BOOM"-ing, dripping with sexuality and base emotions...to which I answer, well, *yes*, but that is part of the point of rock music!

I think he values self-control and intellectual ability, which are perhaps more evident in classical music than modern forms. He would probably say all non-classical music is like cat poop. Cat poop, however, could be considered a fine manure, so the human perspective *is* important. I certainly don't feel classical music is "better" than other types of music just because classical music may be more complex. I feel other types of music, like good cat poop, ground you more in the realities of "baser" human emotions by reminding you that inside every beautiful being is some poop.

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yeah, obviously i do, considering i found your painfully self-evident and pretentious post hilarious. no shit its "specifically limited to the human perspective," so is everything else. you basically said "music is subjective," in this self-righteously wordy style you so often employ. thanks for the insight though, you're a real deep dude.
Heh heh, CAPTAIN C, I *like* what you describe as a "self-righteous wordy style," a satisfying Bach prelude of verbiage. Yeay for deep dudes! Not only music but also other forms of human expression are subjective.
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