Race/gender/sex. orientation and musical stereotyping

hip hop bunny hop · 10-22-2009, 05:46 PM

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--"Young Caucasian males in the Midwest listen to country and metal."

I think it'd be more appropriate to say, --"Young Caucasian males in the Midwest listen to country OR metal."

storymilo · 10-22-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

I tried to get as far as possible from the mainstream tastes in here, just cause they seemed a bit absurd. Ans still 99% of the population still haven't noticed, that they do act as a stereotype.

So the Lebanese teenager Stereotype (for those that don't know):
-When you're a teenager and you turn out to be an exception that doesn't listen to hip hop, R&B ,rap or electronica you directly become part of the other stereotype, the Rock lover.
-What's weird is, that all Rock lovers love those same bands: Metallica, Nirvana and Iron Maiden. And I don't know how they talk about these three bands as if they're from the same genre.
-And when these Rock Lovers grow up to become 15+ they just start loving Dream Theater.

-And then at 18+ you just don't care what's on the radio, just that it is on and on a very non-annoying volume.

I don't know about other countries' stereotypes just what I see in the movies (which is usually based only on unaccurate stereotypes). But not that I have these prejudices in real life or on music forums. Maybe cause I never get to imagine how the user looks like (I'm very bad at these things).

Wow... sad to say that that is pretty much exactly how my friend from Lebanon (who has moved away now) was like

He loved electronica, some rap/hip hip, and was in love with Dream Theater and Nightwish. His only redeeming features were The Sex Pistols and one or two other songs by other artists. Oh, and he hated R.E.M

VEGANGELICA · 10-22-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

I think it'd be more appropriate to say, --"Young Caucasian males in the Midwest listen to country OR metal."

Oh yes, hip hop, you are quite right. I should have said country or metal. But now I wonder, is my stereotype true? Or, is Abdullah closer to reality when Abdullah says most young white males (in the city) listen to hip hop and rock?

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Originally Posted by abdullah424

I meant to comment on that too. Maybe it's just in the city but most young white males I know listen to almost exclusively hip hop and rock.

Rickenbacker · 10-22-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo

Wow... sad to say that that is pretty much exactly how my friend from Lebanon (who has moved away now) was like

He loved electronica, some rap/hip hip, and was in love with Dream Theater and Nightwish. His only redeeming features were The Sex Pistols and one or two other songs by other artists. Oh, and he hated R.E.M

I hope you don't think this is one of Maze's redeeming features.

storymilo · 10-22-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

I hope you don't think this is one of Maze's redeeming features.

No I meant to continue his list of faults

Freebase Dali · 10-22-2009, 09:13 PM

I personally stereotype at least 90 percent of all races, genders, and sexual orientations, and even style of clothing worn, as liking music I hate.

It has been a very accurate standard that hasn't let me down so far, sans the delightful moments in which you meet one of the 10 percent.

Yea, it's lonely... but at least I don't give a fuck.

86 Position · 10-22-2009, 09:30 PM

I'm black, but growing up everybody black, chinese, arab, white, etc etc etc was in to hip-hop.

In canada there isnt this african american experience which goes alongside hip-hop, so I often laugh when cats throw on a crazy NYC accent or what have you.

but I think gender is an interesting one. I havent read the entire thread so maybe somebody said this. but overtime I've realized that women are generally expected to have a ****tier taste in music.

do I believe this? it's a stupid generalization. however, at a time, there were a small handful of women I knew who could list of Wu tang members names, or albumns...or who could tell you what the 8th song on Enta Da Stage is. Or could recite every word to Quiet Storm when it was THE tune. Many of them could tell you when Nelly was going shopping or what colour hat Diddy wore to the MMVAs.

It's similar to when BET allegedly came up with a list of artists they would no longer play on their station. The reason being that many of them weren't marketable to their target group of whatever age teenage girls (you'd assume boys as well).

as far as Im concerned NOW, women, men, sheep, goats, cows, ants, vultures, and everything else under the sun as a whole have let their ****ty taste in music take over the mainstream. thats another story though

NumberNineDream · 10-22-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 86 Position

but I think gender is an interesting one. I havent read the entire thread so maybe somebody said this. but overtime I've realized that women are generally expected to have a ****tier taste in music.

do I believe this? it's a stupid generalization. however, at a time, there were a small handful of women I knew who could list of Wu tang members names, or albumns...or who could tell you what the 8th song on Enta Da Stage is. Or could recite every word to Quiet Storm when it was THE tune. Many of them could tell you when Nelly was going shopping or what colour hat Diddy wore to the MMVAs.

It's similar to when BET allegedly came up with a list of artists they would no longer play on their station. The reason being that many of them weren't marketable to their target group of whatever age teenage girls (you'd assume boys as well).

as far as Im concerned NOW, women, men, sheep, goats, cows, ants, vultures, and everything else under the sun as a whole have let their ****ty taste in music take over the mainstream. thats another story though

I do expect a girl to have a bad taste, tho I'm a girl myself. It's just that in my country girls tend to respect their stereotypes. You just have to drive on the freeway for less than 5 minutes to notice how women are shitty drivers.

I still have this prejudice against girls but in a weird way I have the same against males (maybe with a slight change, but still bad taste for both). And I usually am right, and still not talking about forums.

Antonio · 10-22-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 86 Position

but I think gender is an interesting one. I havent read the entire thread so maybe somebody said this. but overtime I've realized that women are generally expected to have a ****tier taste in music.

from seeing the music that girls at my school listen to, i have to agree.

abdullah424 · 10-23-2009, 12:46 AM

I don't know about that one. I've met some girls who have great taste in music.

I think it was a girl that played Radiohead for me the first time actually when they hit the scene.

10-22-2009, 09:13 PM	#26 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I personally stereotype at least 90 percent of all races, genders, and sexual orientations, and even style of clothing worn, as liking music I hate. It has been a very accurate standard that hasn't let me down so far, sans the delightful moments in which you meet one of the 10 percent. Yea, it's lonely... but at least I don't give a fuck. __________________

10-22-2009, 09:30 PM	#27 (permalink)
86 Position Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 125	I'm black, but growing up everybody black, chinese, arab, white, etc etc etc was in to hip-hop. In canada there isnt this african american experience which goes alongside hip-hop, so I often laugh when cats throw on a crazy NYC accent or what have you. but I think gender is an interesting one. I havent read the entire thread so maybe somebody said this. but overtime I've realized that women are generally expected to have a **tier taste in music. do I believe this? it's a stupid generalization. however, at a time, there were a small handful of women I knew who could list of Wu tang members names, or albumns...or who could tell you what the 8th song on Enta Da Stage is. Or could recite every word to Quiet Storm when it was THE tune. Many of them could tell you when Nelly was going shopping or what colour hat Diddy wore to the MMVAs. It's similar to when BET allegedly came up with a list of artists they would no longer play on their station. The reason being that many of them weren't marketable to their target group of whatever age teenage girls (you'd assume boys as well). as far as Im concerned NOW, women, men, sheep, goats, cows, ants, vultures, and everything else under the sun as a whole have let their **ty taste in music take over the mainstream. thats another story though

10-23-2009, 12:46 AM	#30 (permalink)
abdullah424 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 351	I don't know about that one. I've met some girls who have great taste in music. I think it was a girl that played Radiohead for me the first time actually when they hit the scene.