Serious Help Regarding the Red Krayola

WeeLittleHobbit · 08-18-2009, 02:11 AM

Ok guys, you are my last resort. I didn't want to start a topic like this, and I tried to avoid it at all costs, but Music Banter is the last place I can turn to. Okay, so recently I downloaded The Parable of Arable Land by the Red Krayola, which is a fantastic album. Absolutely beautiful. However, I recently noticed the most annoying problem: my version of the final track, which is entitled "Former Reflections Enduring Doubt" is not actually that track at all, but rather the first track ("Say Hello to Jamie Jones") from their 2nd album (God Bless the Red Krayola and All Who Sail with It). Seems like an easy problem to fix, right? Ha! That's what I so naively assumed. It appears that more than just a few (and I'm putting that lightly) bloggers out there also have the last track as the first track of their 2nd album. It's f*cking driving me nuts! This whole time I thought I had the whole album I was missing a vital part of it! I tried redownloading about, oh, 8 f*cking times, from various google bloggers out there, but to no avail... Music Banter, I turn to you now as my last beacon of hope. Does someone have this album with the correct tracklist? Please oh please somebody help, I'm dyin' here! I shall return the favor in spades (hopefully) to whomever can help me with this.

Terrible Lizard · 08-18-2009, 02:15 AM

I'll do some digging, wait a minute.

Terrible Lizard · 08-18-2009, 02:34 AM

It's not the first track off their second album, doesn't sound the same, nor is the length of the individual tracks even that close.
Krayola tends to recycle old phrases, and sounds into each work following the last. It's just their style.

WeeLittleHobbit · 08-18-2009, 02:40 AM

The last track on the version I have is (as far as I can tell) an exact copy of "Say Hello to Jamie Jones." That, and both tracks lengths are the same on the 2 albums I have. I'm pretty sure this is some sort of weird mistake. But to be sure, is there any chance you could send me a PM of the version you found? Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I'm almost positive I don't have the right track.

Terrible Lizard · 08-18-2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by WeeLittleHobbit

The last track on the version I have is (as far as I can tell) an exact copy of "Say Hello to Jamie Jones." That, and both tracks lengths are the same on the 2 albums I have. I'm pretty sure this is some sort of weird mistake. But to be sure, is there any chance you could send me a PM of the version you found? Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I'm almost positive I don't have the right track.

You have the right version, it's just organized differently.
Add up the amout of time of the tracks displayed in the wiki article, and compare it to the added length of the tracks you possess for the album.

You have everything, if you went to the first blogs to pop up on google you went to the right places.

WeeLittleHobbit · 08-18-2009, 02:56 AM

Hmmm, well another thing is that my version is separated into 13 tracks (all of the Free Form Freak-Outs are separated), and that conflicts with alot of other tracklists I've seen, including Wikipedia's. I'm thinking about digging for a version that is simply 6 tracks, maybe that will end all of my confusion? I sure f*cking hope so. Thank you for all the help though, I really appreciate it.

WeeLittleHobbit · 08-18-2009, 01:10 PM

Okay, I think I've figured out what happened. Turns out I do have that last track, but it was actually listed as a "Free Form Freak-Out." Someone just mistakenly tacked "Say Hello to Jamie Jones" on the end. Now, it turns out I'm missing the first Free Form Freak-Out that comes after "War Sucks" (there are 2 consecutive FFFO's after that song apparently). I made sure I was correct by previewing the song on Amazon. That one isn't on my version of the album, and when I listened closely I noticed that "War Sucks" cuts off abruptly where the other FFFO should continue. So my search continues, but it appears that this is the track that everyone is missing. Could somebody lend a hand? I've never had this much trouble with an album before...

WeeLittleHobbit · 08-18-2009, 01:42 PM

For anyone who cares enough about what I'm talking about, here's the link so you can listen to a sample of the track I'm talking about:

Amazon.com: Parable of Arable Land / God Bless Red Krayola (2 Lps on one cd): The Red Krayola: Music

It's track 7. It flows with "War Sucks," and no one seems to have it... And sorry for like, triple posting. I just had to get all this out there.

08-18-2009, 02:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	Serious Help Regarding the Red Krayola Ok guys, you are my last resort. I didn't want to start a topic like this, and I tried to avoid it at all costs, but Music Banter is the last place I can turn to. Okay, so recently I downloaded The Parable of Arable Land by the Red Krayola, which is a fantastic album. Absolutely beautiful. However, I recently noticed the most annoying problem: my version of the final track, which is entitled "Former Reflections Enduring Doubt" is not actually that track at all, but rather the first track ("Say Hello to Jamie Jones") from their 2nd album (God Bless the Red Krayola and All Who Sail with It). Seems like an easy problem to fix, right? Ha! That's what I so naively assumed. It appears that more than just a few (and I'm putting that lightly) bloggers out there also have the last track as the first track of their 2nd album. It's fcking driving me nuts! This whole time I thought I had the whole album I was missing a vital part of it! I tried redownloading about, oh, 8 fcking times, from various google bloggers out there, but to no avail... Music Banter, I turn to you now as my last beacon of hope. Does someone have this album with the correct tracklist? Please oh please somebody help, I'm dyin' here! I shall return the favor in spades (hopefully) to whomever can help me with this. __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny? Last edited by WeeLittleHobbit; 08-18-2009 at 02:19 AM.*

08-18-2009, 02:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Terrible Lizard **ER OF HOLES Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Butt**, Nebraska Posts: 1,211	I'll do some digging, wait a minute. __________________ “YOU ARE SCUM SLUT.” -John Martyn

08-18-2009, 02:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
Terrible Lizard **ER OF HOLES Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Butt**, Nebraska Posts: 1,211	It's not the first track off their second album, doesn't sound the same, nor is the length of the individual tracks even that close. Krayola tends to recycle old phrases, and sounds into each work following the last. It's just their style. __________________ “YOU ARE SCUM SLUT.” -John Martyn

08-18-2009, 02:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	The last track on the version I have is (as far as I can tell) an exact copy of "Say Hello to Jamie Jones." That, and both tracks lengths are the same on the 2 albums I have. I'm pretty sure this is some sort of weird mistake. But to be sure, is there any chance you could send me a PM of the version you found? Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places, but I'm almost positive I don't have the right track. __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy*: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny?

08-18-2009, 02:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	Hmmm, well another thing is that my version is separated into 13 tracks (all of the Free Form Freak-Outs are separated), and that conflicts with alot of other tracklists I've seen, including Wikipedia's. I'm thinking about digging for a version that is simply 6 tracks, maybe that will end all of my confusion? I sure fcking hope so. Thank you for all the help though, I really appreciate it. __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny?

08-18-2009, 01:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	Okay, I think I've figured out what happened. Turns out I do have that last track, but it was actually listed as a "Free Form Freak-Out." Someone just mistakenly tacked "Say Hello to Jamie Jones" on the end. Now, it turns out I'm missing the first Free Form Freak-Out that comes after "War Sucks" (there are 2 consecutive FFFO's after that song apparently). I made sure I was correct by previewing the song on Amazon. That one isn't on my version of the album, and when I listened closely I noticed that "War Sucks" cuts off abruptly where the other FFFO should continue. So my search continues, but it appears that this is the track that everyone is missing. Could somebody lend a hand? I've never had this much trouble with an album before... __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny? Last edited by WeeLittleHobbit; 08-18-2009 at 01:27 PM.*

08-18-2009, 01:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	For anyone who cares enough about what I'm talking about, here's the link so you can listen to a sample of the track I'm talking about: Amazon.com: Parable of Arable Land / God Bless Red Krayola (2 Lps on one cd): The Red Krayola: Music It's track 7. It flows with "War Sucks," and no one seems to have it... And sorry for like, triple posting. I just had to get all this out there. __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy*: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny?