"Indie"

popsounds · 06-03-2009, 05:17 PM

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we need something good man. not metal, not ball less indie. we need something with and edge and sublety, man. lets lay of the electronic **** man, and put some groove into it, alright hahaha. Yeah.

Someone wrote this in a thread and for some strange reason it was locked, but it's actually a very good question. What's with all this electronic Animal Collective crap, this poor man's ambient Eno imitations, these pathetic attempts at trying to steal Brian Wilson's brain? It seems that most "independent" music, music on the fringe, is either metal-based or indie explorations in pop. Nobody plays truly electrically loud anymore, it's either heavy metal/hard rock or softer "indie pop"/"neo-psychadelia" without the solos, whatever - what happened to people who listened to the Stooges, Hendrix, MC5, the Who? They're gone. Not to mention those who are truly influenced by the late 70s - Clash, Ramones, Television, Smith, Hell, Damned... everything with a shred of punk influence is candy-coated and reduced to top 40 plastic. (Though, strangely, I respect Green Day, but not necessarily musically as much.)

jackhammer · 06-03-2009, 05:19 PM

It was locked because it was shit. Funnily enough....

lucifer_sam · 06-03-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by popsounds

Someone wrote this in a thread and for some strange reason it was locked, but it's actually a very good question. What's with all this electronic Animal Collective crap, this poor man's ambient Eno imitations, these pathetic attempts at trying to steal Brian Wilson's brain? It seems that most "independent" music, music on the fringe, is either metal-based or indie explorations in pop. Nobody plays truly electrically loud anymore, it's either heavy metal/hard rock or softer "indie pop"/"neo-psychadelia" without the solos, whatever - what happened to people who listened to the Stooges, Hendrix, MC5, the Who? They're gone. Not to mention those who are truly influenced by the late 70s - Clash, Ramones, Television, Smith, Hell, Damned... everything with a shred of punk influence is candy-coated and reduced to top 40 plastic. (Though, strangely, I respect Green Day, but not necessarily musically as much.)

shut the fuck up.

right-track · 06-03-2009, 05:30 PM

...and welcome to MusicBanter.

Comus · 06-03-2009, 05:35 PM

There are still some very very awesome indie albums out there. You just have to know where to look.

adidasss · 06-03-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by popsounds

Someone wrote this in a thread and for some strange reason it was locked, but it's actually a very good question. What's with all this electronic Animal Collective crap, this poor man's ambient Eno imitations, these pathetic attempts at trying to steal Brian Wilson's brain? It seems that most "independent" music, music on the fringe, is either metal-based or indie explorations in pop. Nobody plays truly electrically loud anymore, it's either heavy metal/hard rock or softer "indie pop"/"neo-psychadelia" without the solos, whatever - what happened to people who listened to the Stooges, Hendrix, MC5, the Who? They're gone. Not to mention those who are truly influenced by the late 70s - Clash, Ramones, Television, Smith, Hell, Damned... everything with a shred of punk influence is candy-coated and reduced to top 40 plastic. (Though, strangely, I respect Green Day, but not necessarily musically as much.)

I'm sure there are plenty of indie punk bands if that's what you're referring to. It's just that nobody gives a fuck anymore. We went through that shit in the 90's....:\

Maybe you should give Christal Antlers a go though...they're pretty loud, although also slightly psychedelic...*shrug*

dac · 06-03-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by popsounds

Someone wrote this in a thread and for some strange reason it was locked, but it's actually a very good question. What's with all this electronic Animal Collective crap, this poor man's ambient Eno imitations, these pathetic attempts at trying to steal Brian Wilson's brain? It seems that most "independent" music, music on the fringe, is either metal-based or indie explorations in pop. Nobody plays truly electrically loud anymore, it's either heavy metal/hard rock or softer "indie pop"/"neo-psychadelia" without the solos, whatever - what happened to people who listened to the Stooges, Hendrix, MC5, the Who? They're gone. Not to mention those who are truly influenced by the late 70s - Clash, Ramones, Television, Smith, Hell, Damned... everything with a shred of punk influence is candy-coated and reduced to top 40 plastic. (Though, strangely, I respect Green Day, but not necessarily musically as much.)

ya basically all good music stopped being made after the 80s i agree completely

WWWP · 06-03-2009, 06:10 PM

Grunge 4 Lyfe.

jacklovezhimself · 06-03-2009, 06:25 PM

popsounds · 06-03-2009, 06:37 PM

Whoah, big surprise, I'm completely misunderstood. It must have been me not liking Animal Collective that did it. I'm not saying that "all current music is crap" or something like that, good heavens no, I'm not one of those people. Just because, say, Broken Social Scene sometimes sounds like they are trying to be a poor man's Brian Eno doesn't mean they're not a good band. Just because I say that everything nowadays is either heavy or intensely melodic doesn't mean that that music is bad - I'm just commenting on the fact that there seems to be little balance. It's the indie scene and the metal scene, and that's pretty much all the independent scenes out there, with the exception of a small Garage scene which is pretty much dead by now. I wasn't even saying that we should have more of that, but I'm wondering where it all is by now. It seems like it's time for a new musical movement, but the music scene has sort of stayed in place for the last 6, 7 years - some great music has come out, but it's not progressing as rapidly as it seems it should. I'm not surprised, though, that because of that namedropping earlier which I now see has caused all this trouble, I'm getting all these cries of musical... Rip Van Winkleism. Which is sort of impossible, considering I'm a teenager.

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popsounds Groupie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 13	Whoah, big surprise, I'm completely misunderstood. It must have been me not liking Animal Collective that did it. I'm not saying that "all current music is crap" or something like that, good heavens no, I'm not one of those people. Just because, say, Broken Social Scene sometimes sounds like they are trying to be a poor man's Brian Eno doesn't mean they're not a good band. Just because I say that everything nowadays is either heavy or intensely melodic doesn't mean that that music is bad - I'm just commenting on the fact that there seems to be little balance. It's the indie scene and the metal scene, and that's pretty much all the independent scenes out there, with the exception of a small Garage scene which is pretty much dead by now. I wasn't even saying that we should have more of that, but I'm wondering where it all is by now. It seems like it's time for a new musical movement, but the music scene has sort of stayed in place for the last 6, 7 years - some great music has come out, but it's not progressing as rapidly as it seems it should. I'm not surprised, though, that because of that namedropping earlier which I now see has caused all this trouble, I'm getting all these cries of musical... Rip Van Winkleism. Which is sort of impossible, considering I'm a teenager.