"Indie"

Surell · 06-07-2009, 08:16 PM

Because then it would have wide acceptance and that's bull.

music_phantom13 · 06-07-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by popsounds

Whoah, big surprise, I'm completely misunderstood. It must have been me not liking Animal Collective that did it. I'm not saying that "all current music is crap" or something like that, good heavens no, I'm not one of those people. Just because, say, Broken Social Scene sometimes sounds like they are trying to be a poor man's Brian Eno doesn't mean they're not a good band. Just because I say that everything nowadays is either heavy or intensely melodic doesn't mean that that music is bad - I'm just commenting on the fact that there seems to be little balance. It's the indie scene and the metal scene, and that's pretty much all the independent scenes out there, with the exception of a small Garage scene which is pretty much dead by now. I wasn't even saying that we should have more of that, but I'm wondering where it all is by now. It seems like it's time for a new musical movement, but the music scene has sort of stayed in place for the last 6, 7 years - some great music has come out, but it's not progressing as rapidly as it seems it should. I'm not surprised, though, that because of that namedropping earlier which I now see has caused all this trouble, I'm getting all these cries of musical... Rip Van Winkleism. Which is sort of impossible, considering I'm a teenager.

Yeah how true. I mean, it's not like I go to see 2 or 3 experimental concerts a month showcasing varying types of expiremental music, from drone to free jazz to, yes, electronic, in DC. And it's not like any other place in the U.S. or the world has their own unique underground music scenes.

And i don't feel like quoting some of the other stupid stuff you said, but believe it or not, yes different areas do have different musical scenes to an extent. You want to see a true blues player pouring their heart and soul through their music? You go to Memphis. You want to hear some good country? I hate country, but I imagine you could find at least one good show in Nashville. DC has a very strong experimental scene, as I mentioned before, and Portland and Seattle are homes to the very type of indie you are complaining about. See, in a way, a lot of cities do have a genre they are well known for. Of course, they aren't all unique, but there's other bands in every city too. And I'm afraid it's a sad fact of life that you just won't find as many bands and as much diversity outside of big cities. This is because bands like to play concerts where there are people to come to their shows. I'm not sure what you were really asking with this, but if I didn't cover it yet, I'd also like to point out that there are indeed lots of underground bands that don't play psychedelic electronic influenced music or metal. You just don't know how to find them.

Epic fail. And I managed to take part in the debate, and laugh at how horrible some of these posts were! No offense. I'm still kind of a noob too. Don't take it the wrong way, people just rip into you when say something stupid (or that lots of mb members consider stupid). Oh, and just as a heads up, dropping names like that will get you **** sometimes, but it's alright. I hate Radiohead.

And... Welcome to Musicbanter!

dac · 06-07-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by music_phantom13

Yeah how true. I mean, it's not like I go to see 2 or 3 experimental concerts a month showcasing varying types of expiremental music, from drone to free jazz to, yes, electronic, in DC. And it's not like any other place in the U.S. or the world has their own unique underground music scenes.

And i don't feel like quoting some of the other stupid stuff you said, but believe it or not, yes different areas do have different musical scenes to an extent. You want to see a true blues player pouring their heart and soul through their music? You go to Memphis. You want to hear some good country? I hate country, but I imagine you could find at least one good show in Nashville. DC has a very strong experimental scene, as I mentioned before, and Portland and Seattle are homes to the very type of indie you are complaining about. See, in a way, a lot of cities do have a genre they are well known for. Of course, they aren't all unique, but there's other bands in every city too. And I'm afraid it's a sad fact of life that you just won't find as many bands and as much diversity outside of big cities. This is because bands like to play concerts where there are people to come to their shows. I'm not sure what you were really asking with this, but if I didn't cover it yet, I'd also like to point out that there are indeed lots of underground bands that don't play psychedelic electronic influenced music or metal. You just don't know how to find them.

Epic fail. And I managed to take part in the debate, and laugh at how horrible some of these posts were! No offense. I'm still kind of a noob too. Don't take it the wrong way, people just rip into you when say something stupid (or that lots of mb members consider stupid). Oh, and just as a heads up, dropping names like that will get you **** sometimes, but it's alright. I hate Radiohead.

And... Welcome to Musicbanter!

Best Post of 2009.

Neapolitan · 06-07-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Music sucks these days , whatever happened to the days when you could buy some great New Romantic albums, A Flock Of Seagulls , Duran Duran , Modern Romance , ABC.

See how ridiculous this argument is when you change the genre?

The Liverpudian band, A Flock of Seagulls, are not New Romanticism - as far as I know. They are New Wave, Synthpop and Elcectropop. a fact courtesy of Wikipedia!

"The revamped band [ABC] were pigeon-holed as part of the New Romantic movement of the time, which included the likes of Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet." quote courtesy of Wikipedia!

New Romantic Movement:
Classix Nouveaux
Culture Club
Duran Duran
Heaven 17
Spandau Ballet
Tears For Fears
Visage

music_phantom13 · 06-07-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dac

Best Post of 2009.

Wait what? I honestly have no idea if that's sarcasm or what.

dac · 06-07-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by music_phantom13

Wait what? I honestly have no idea if that's sarcasm or what.

No it was a great post. Excellent rant completely refuting his arguments and I agreed with all of it minus the whole Radiohead deal.

TheBig3 · 06-07-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Why isn't it a genre?

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Originally Posted by Surell

Because then it would have wide acceptance and that's bull.

regardless of whether or not something is "bull" doesn't answer the question, "why isn't this a genre?"

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-07-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

The Liverpudian band, A Flock of Seagulls, are not New Romanticism - as far as I know. They are New Wave, Synthpop and Elcectropop. a fact courtesy of Wikipedia!

"The revamped band [ABC] were pigeon-holed as part of the New Romantic movement of the time, which included the likes of Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet." quote courtesy of Wikipedia!

New Romantic Movement:
Classix Nouveaux
Culture Club
Duran Duran
Heaven 17
Spandau Ballet
Tears For Fears
Visage

I'm really not going to lose any sleep on getting a technicality wrong over a genre placing of an awful one hit wonder band from over 25 years ago in arguably the worst musical movement of the last 30 years.

music_phantom13 · 06-07-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dac

No it was a great post. Excellent rant completely refuting his arguments and I agreed with all of it minus the whole Radiohead deal.

Oh. Well in that case thank you!

Yeah, as far as Radiohead goes, I know they're a really popular band among musicbanter members (and last.fm apparently) but I still can't get into them. I've tried so many times, but they just don't do it for me.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 06-07-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I'm really not going to lose any sleep on getting a technicality wrong over a genre placing of an awful one hit wonder band from over 25 years ago in arguably the worst musical movement of the last 30 years.

You should however lose sleep for actually knowing who Flock of Seagulls are. I know I do