The 100 Greatest Songs of All Time

Rickenbacker · 05-23-2009, 06:24 PM

I snipped the list to prevent further obnoxious posts.

I thought not to add any jazz or classical pieces, as I regard those more as "works" rather than songs. A classical piece is often too dense and complex to be regarded as one entity, so it would not have a place here.

jackhammer · 05-23-2009, 06:34 PM

Are you sure this is not a Rolling Stone magazine top 100 or maybe Radio 2? There is not one single song I have NEVER heard. Top 100's where I don't know a few tracks float my boat a lot more. A grand total of 2 would make my top 100. I swear I have seen this list before.

Rickenbacker · 05-23-2009, 08:01 PM

I made this list by myself and with the help of the toribash community.

See, now the problem with top 100 lists is that there are so many factors in determining a song's worth. Certainly, an important factor is a song's popularity, and another its influence. Had I chosen fantastic songs that weren't well known, which there are many of, I would have had to disregard both popularity and influence.

Sorry if the list was offensive to you, but with my point in mind, does it make more sense?

sidewinder · 05-23-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

Certainly, an important factor is a song's popularity, and another its influence.

These two things have no bearing on great songs for me.

These lists confuse me...what is their purpose? If they are not your personal favorite songs, than what is the point? I'm curious...not bashing. So they were popular, and influenced other artists? It's just like any list you could find in a magazine, like jackhammer pointed out.

Rickenbacker · 05-23-2009, 08:27 PM

Purpose? Why, there is of course no purpose. But does that matter?

Regardless, it is fine that you do not find my aforementioned factors important in determining a song's worth, but it was under that pretense that this list was made.

Not saying those were the only factors here, but they did have some bearing on the outcome.

With that point established, how is it? I would appreciate some feedback that actually relates to the song selection.

khfreek · 05-23-2009, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

Regardless, it is fine that you do not find my aforementioned factors important in determining a song's worth, but it was under that pretense that this list was made.

Greatest implies 'of the highest quality'. So of course if you're going to make a list of the most influential songs of all time, and then decide to give it a completely misleading title, people will be peeved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

With that point established, how is it? I would appreciate some feedback that actually relates to the song selection.

If you're deciding to go by influence, the list is mediocre. No classical music and no early blues FTL

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-23-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

With that point established, how is it? I would appreciate some feedback that actually relates to the song selection.

It's just a list of songs.

I see no reasoning or explanations as to why they're in the order they are. No personal stories you might have as to why you may have made a song as highly rated it is.

So you think Stairway to Heaven is the 2nd best song of all time? Well great, but why? What makes your reasoning for it being there any different to the millions of other lists that have that song in it?
Is it there because they all put it in so you felt obliged to put it in your own?
Does it represent something special to you which is why it's there?
Is it there because you somehow feel not having it there makes this list somehow lacking in credibility?

We don't know any of this , so what's there to discuss about it?

~~Farfisa~~ · 05-23-2009, 08:56 PM

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jackhammer · 05-23-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

I made this list by myself and with the help of the toribash community.

See, now the problem with top 100 lists is that there are so many factors in determining a song's worth. Certainly, an important factor is a song's popularity, and another its influence. Had I chosen fantastic songs that weren't well known, which there are many of, I would have had to disregard both popularity and influence.

Sorry if the list was offensive to you, but with my point in mind, does it make more sense?

and how is this a problem? you mean that you are making a list that really isn't that personal to you at all?

If I made a top 100 it would be purely for selfish reasons and for me and me only . I would not take ANY other criteria into the list making except for my own preference. A song's popularity is never a factor if it's your own list.

Rickenbacker · 05-23-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

It's just a list of songs.

I see no reasoning or explanations as to why they're in the order they are. No personal stories you might have as to why you may have made a song as highly rated it is.

So you think Stairway to Heaven is the 2nd best song of all time? Well great, but why? What makes your reasoning for it being there any different to the millions of other lists that have that song in it?
Is it there because they all put it in so you felt obliged to put it in your own?
Does it represent something special to you which is why it's there?
Is it there because you somehow feel not having it there makes this list somehow lacking in credibility?

We don't know any of this , so what's there to discuss about it?

The way I saw it was like this. Upon noticing a song that you or anyone else believe should not be in its spot that it is on the list, you or anyone else could dispute it by questioning its merits.

I shouldn't have to be the one doing all the work

o7

05-23-2009, 06:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rickenbacker / Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Conn Posts: 1,338	The 100 Greatest Songs of All Time (List Snipped) I snipped the list to prevent further obnoxious posts. I thought not to add any jazz or classical pieces, as I regard those more as "works" rather than songs. A classical piece is often too dense and complex to be regarded as one entity, so it would not have a place here. Last edited by Rickenbacker; 05-25-2009 at 08:11 PM.

05-23-2009, 06:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Are you sure this is not a Rolling Stone magazine top 100 or maybe Radio 2? There is not one single song I have NEVER heard. Top 100's where I don't know a few tracks float my boat a lot more. A grand total of 2 would make my top 100. I swear I have seen this list before. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

05-23-2009, 08:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rickenbacker / Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Conn Posts: 1,338	I made this list by myself and with the help of the toribash community. See, now the problem with top 100 lists is that there are so many factors in determining a song's worth. Certainly, an important factor is a song's popularity, and another its influence. Had I chosen fantastic songs that weren't well known, which there are many of, I would have had to disregard both popularity and influence. Sorry if the list was offensive to you, but with my point in mind, does it make more sense?

05-23-2009, 08:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rickenbacker / Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Conn Posts: 1,338	Purpose? Why, there is of course no purpose. But does that matter? Regardless, it is fine that you do not find my aforementioned factors important in determining a song's worth, but it was under that pretense that this list was made. Not saying those were the only factors here, but they did have some bearing on the outcome. With that point established, how is it? I would appreciate some feedback that actually relates to the song selection.

05-23-2009, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
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