Do you care if an artist is a d*ck? (lyrics, singer)

Mirrorball95 · 04-14-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent-on-the-Run

I don't mind. In fact, especially when it comes to politics, I would rather not know what their political leanings are. It sort of bugs me, too, that some artists talk about that crap on stage, I'm there for the music, not what they think about this or that.

I saw Ryan Adams several years ago. Awful show. Drunk as a skunk. But I got over it and love him again.

I heard a story about Ryan Adams. He was playing a gig (cant remember where exactly), and he asked the crowd for a suggestion on which song to play next, and someone shouted out 'Summer Of 69' (which I thought was quite funny), however Mr.Adams did not and had the guy thrown out and his ticket refunded. But I still like his music;I dont understand anybody who says they dont like somebodys music because of things they have done in other situations.
Another example I have (this is pretty embarassing but...) is Oasis. I used to be really into them when I was back in High School 2 or years ago but obviously I hate Liam Gallagher & more recentley Noel Gallagher, just because of their attitudes that they are 'the best' etc etc but it didnt affect me when I listened to their music. I have sinced 'grown out' of Oasis and realise now that their lyrics mean sod all, that Noel Gallagher is 'not' a genious and that basically they are just crap.(I realised this when somebody introduced me to Neil Young).

LoathsomePete · 04-14-2009, 10:03 AM

I use to let it not bother me, but over the years I've started to change that idea. There are certain bands like Mayhem, which I just refuse to listen to or buy their music or even download it because of my hatred towards Varg Vikernes. Another example is The Smashing Pumpkins. Back when I was 16 I use to be a huge SP fan and I was also aware of Billy Corgan's monstrous ego. Whenever I listened to them I had this little doubt in the back of my mind, a little guilty doubt and anger that I'm worshiping this man even though he's a huge douche. One of the things that I like about listening almost exclusively to underground music is that the artists are too small to really have gotten that ego boost, or if they do and are douche bags the media doesn't ever really talk about it so I'm left blissfully ignorant, which I can live with.

Zarko · 04-14-2009, 10:14 AM

It doesn't really effect me on the large scale... With local bands, sure, if it is doucheville, I will generally avoid them. But it's just the lifestyle sometimes I guess.

One of my favourite musicians ever, Mingus, was apparently one of the most aggressive wankers ever, getting into random fights, getting arrested before sets and then being released to do that set, etc etc. Doesn't make him a worse musician, and unless I know him personally, I don't know how being a twat really effects me.

**Janszoon** · 04-14-2009, 10:28 AM

I try to separate the music from the musician. Like dac said, it's kind of a plus when the musician is a nice person but they don't have to be. On the other hand if the person is dick to me directly it does affect my feelings about the music. For example, I met Damon Tutunjian from the Swirlies before and I thought he was an obnoxious, arrogant indie-prick and I have to confess it made me not want to buy any more Swirlies albums.

The Cat · 04-14-2009, 10:34 AM

Like has been said as long as the music is good then i couldn't care if the artistis a D**K, but you have to admit that some poeple get all of those little monkeys in your head pressing the wrong button and then.........sorry i can't buy a Pete Doherty album

Antonio · 04-14-2009, 10:57 AM

well i'm glad most of you people care more about the music and not how some dude acts

~~Flower Child~~ · 04-14-2009, 10:57 AM

I have always been a huge Kurt Cobain fan. I have the t-shirts, the posters, the dvds, everything. But man, after I watched him act like a little spoiled brat on Nirvana: MTV Unplugged I was very dissapointed. And all of his band members had to pretty much babysit his ass the whole time through the show, I lost some major respect for ol' Kurt.

I don't know about you guys but when I hear someone sing a song, I get an image in my head about what they look like and what their personality is probably like. Doing this helps me get the extra feeling for the song they are singing. and when they turn out really ugly or if they are a **** then yes I can't think of the song in the same way as what I used to.

jackhammer · 04-14-2009, 11:08 AM

I just listen to the music. Do you stop reading a book because the author was a twat? No. The only time I would draw the line is convicted kiddie fiddlers.

Schizotypic · 04-14-2009, 11:59 AM

At my first concert (and this was recently) one of the weirdest things was seeing a band/artists standing there in front of me. This is because I naturally just disconnect the music from the musician(s). Although, like Janszoon said, if I went to a concert and someone was a fucking dick directly in front of me- it would be harder to forget. But dammit, I would try. Why let them spoil good music for you?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 04-14-2009, 12:01 PM

Do you think i'd listen to The Fall if it bothered me?

04-14-2009, 10:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	I use to let it not bother me, but over the years I've started to change that idea. There are certain bands like Mayhem, which I just refuse to listen to or buy their music or even download it because of my hatred towards Varg Vikernes. Another example is The Smashing Pumpkins. Back when I was 16 I use to be a huge SP fan and I was also aware of Billy Corgan's monstrous ego. Whenever I listened to them I had this little doubt in the back of my mind, a little guilty doubt and anger that I'm worshiping this man even though he's a huge douche. One of the things that I like about listening almost exclusively to underground music is that the artists are too small to really have gotten that ego boost, or if they do and are douche bags the media doesn't ever really talk about it so I'm left blissfully ignorant, which I can live with. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

04-14-2009, 10:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I try to separate the music from the musician. Like dac said, it's kind of a plus when the musician is a nice person but they don't have to be. On the other hand if the person is dick to me directly it does affect my feelings about the music. For example, I met Damon Tutunjian from the Swirlies before and I thought he was an obnoxious, arrogant indie-prick and I have to confess it made me not want to buy any more Swirlies albums. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

04-14-2009, 10:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
The Cat ..Just Not Your Kind Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 188	Like has been said as long as the music is good then i couldn't care if the artistis a D**K, but you have to admit that some poeple get all of those little monkeys in your head pressing the wrong button and then.........sorry i can't buy a Pete Doherty album __________________ Just Because Your paraniod......Doesn't Mean They Are Not After You!

04-14-2009, 11:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I just listen to the music. Do you stop reading a book because the author was a twat? No. The only time I would draw the line is convicted kiddie fiddlers. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

04-14-2009, 12:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Do you think i'd listen to The Fall if it bothered me? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

04-14-2009, 10:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Zarko Barely Disheveled Zombie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,196	It doesn't really effect me on the large scale... With local bands, sure, if it is doucheville, I will generally avoid them. But it's just the lifestyle sometimes I guess. One of my favourite musicians ever, Mingus, was apparently one of the most aggressive wankers ever, getting into random fights, getting arrested before sets and then being released to do that set, etc etc. Doesn't make him a worse musician, and unless I know him personally, I don't know how being a twat really effects me.

04-14-2009, 10:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
~~Flower Child~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: classified Posts: 639	I have always been a huge Kurt Cobain fan. I have the t-shirts, the posters, the dvds, everything. But man, after I watched him act like a little spoiled brat on Nirvana: MTV Unplugged I was very dissapointed. And all of his band members had to pretty much babysit his ass the whole time through the show, I lost some major respect for ol' Kurt. I don't know about you guys but when I hear someone sing a song, I get an image in my head about what they look like and what their personality is probably like. Doing this helps me get the extra feeling for the song they are singing. and when they turn out really ugly or if they are a **** then yes I can't think of the song in the same way as what I used to.

04-14-2009, 11:59 AM	#19 (permalink)
Schizotypic Souls of Sound Sailors Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mojave Posts: 759	At my first concert (and this was recently) one of the weirdest things was seeing a band/artists standing there in front of me. This is because I naturally just disconnect the music from the musician(s). Although, like Janszoon said, if I went to a concert and someone was a fucking dick directly in front of me- it would be harder to forget. But dammit, I would try. Why let them spoil good music for you?