Frank Zappa: Absolutely
The Clash: Yeah, I dig their style..
Bob Dylan: Indeed, quite an influence on alot of music
Pink Floyd: Absolutely
Big Black: Abstain
Tom Waits: Abstain
The Smiths: Abstain
Chuck Berry: Yes

Hmmm... I didn't give a single 'no' vote...

No more votes please. Everything will be counted and the results will be posted soonish.

Wheres the Spin Doctors?? :soapbox:

The results are in (late) and those into the HOF are:

Frank Zappa

The Clash

Bob Dylan

Pink Floyd

Tom Waits

And those who don't get in this time are:

Big Black

The Smiths

Chuck Berry

Thanks to those who voted, feel free to post your opinions here. More nominations should start Monday.

I'm glad everyone who got in got in, but...
No Smiths? :(

Zappa!!!!!!!!!

No Smiths? What the FUCK?

Haha epic, shame about chuck berry though.

Have you nominated them?

Is there a thread that has the entire hall of fame listed after three rounds of induction?

Just wondering why was Big Black put on this list? Seems a little out of place as you said, but was there a specific reason? Personally I love big black, just seems a little strange.

Because they were nominated by someone

How can you nominate a band?

Read the first post here

http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...ns-thread.html

Lol I was only joking but personally I do really like them I think they are massively underrated, obviously their lyrics are bollocks but the music is excellent and they are excellent musicians.
As for 'nominating' , just out of interest, how do you do it exactly?

Reading the post directly above you always helps.

Oryt sorry didnt notice that when I posted lol
Um cant be arsed anyway, I dont agree with these 'hall of fame' things- theyre just too predictable & anyway; who else is gonna vote for the likes of the Spin Doctors?

If Big Black can get in, anything's possible ;)

..but they didn't in the end. And The Smiths being rejected leaves me an empty husk. Not really, but you know.

But you & I know that The Smiths are a great band so does it really matter about these stupid Hall Of Fame things?
Ive not heard 'Big Black' yet but if you like them then thats all that should matter. The hall of fame is just about 'big' names & 'big' artists & are usually just based on mainstream popularity & to me the best musicians never really get the recognition that they deserve.

Frank Zappa
No. Not doubting his influence, i just really dislike his music.

The Clash
Yes, one of the most innovative, experimental punk bands to emerge from the first wave. Their social relevance cannot be ignored either

Bob Dylan
You have to really, has made some of the greatest albums ever. Lyrically peerless.

Pink Floyd
Again, constantly pushing musical boundaries and their sheer audacity on some albums warrants their place.

Big Black
No, i love this band, but hall of fame? There were other bands more important to noise rock.

Tom Waits
Yes, brilliant man.

The Smiths
Yes, some of the most important british albums of the last 30 years.

Chuck Berry
Abstain.

Just a tad late Stu :p:

I was joking. I don't think anyone gets that upset about it all ;)
Although i think with some of the nominations coming up it'll blow away your stereotype of all HOF's being just big names.

Well it would be a bit pathetic if people got upset about stuff like that y'no.
'Nominations', Perhaps, I think that the hall of fame shouldnt just be 'Rock n' Roll', I think it should embrace all other genres especially Jazz & also Soul,Funk,Metal,Electronic- even Avant Garde stuff (IMO).
I try not to stereotype things but all the hall of fames Ive ever seen are so predictable- Bob Dylan, The Clash, Elvis Presley, blah blah blah.
Now its no that i dont like these bands/artists, its just I think 'Hall Of Fame' is very narrow minded and to me it is unecessary as I dont need confirmation of what music I think is excellent.

it isn't. we've had Wu-Tang Clan nominated as well as a few others. hell, look at Beefheart. he's about as rock n' roll as my hat.

'Nominated', not actually inducted. These Hall Of Fame things are totally unecessary in my opinion and I cringe when I continually see peoples narrow minded selections 'The Smiths, Chuck Berry,The Who,Beatles, Stones,blah blah blah.
How many styles have you embraced by having 'Wu-Tang Clan' (whom I dont personally like) & 'Captain Beefheart' (whom I have a few of his albums- 'Safe As Milk' & 'The Spotlight Kid/Clear Spot' but find him a bit difficult to get into (personally prefer Frank Zappa). So 'rap' & 'weird ass 60s rock'. Wow...

Funnily enough, two of those alleged sacred cows didn't get inducted.

It's about classifying MB's sacred cows, not the world's. Which artists are universally liked or close to it by the MB community. The real problem is that not enough people are willing to try out these artists and instantly vote no or abstain, when in fact they may quite like them.

You want someone different to get a chance? You nominate them...

Do you not think though Mirrorball that these Hall of Fame threads have generated good and honest debate and discussion?

nobody nominated the Who and i don't think the Stones got in either.

Either way, the way these sort of things tend to go is that the obvious ones get in first and eventually everyone starts branching out with their nominations.

i don't see what the problem is with it, definitely gives noobs an introduction to what music we like here. i'm up for anything that gets people to discuss music, really.

I think you've hit the nail on the head, its very much in its infancy at the minute, and the left field names are starting to filter through.

I have no doubt that this Hall of Fame thing will (if not already) develop into something very useful as time goes on.

Yes, just as any discussion about music on this forum does. I just dont like the whole concept of holding up these particular artists and saying 'they are the best' etc etc.
I think all the music I listen(or perhaps more appropriately like- although there is some stuff where I dont like but can still appreciate it for what it is) to is good in its own right & thats how I think that ,due to the original concept of these hall of fame things, they are unecessary.
The way I see 'the best in the world' statement is that it is based up limited experience of music. I find it impossible to actually truthfully say that this band or this artist is 'the best in the world' as I havent heard every single artist to compare against.
You never know when youre gonna find a new great band and anything can happen with new artists and bands coming out (not so much the mainstream ones).
Wow, thats a breakthrough we have here. I was just naming the most obvious rock bands which people state are 'the best in the world'.
Yep which I disagree with as I dont think it should be based on the 'biggest, most commercial, most well known (or over hyped IMO)...

The thing about this comment though is that it is so blatantly obvious, you wouldnt even actually have to be into music to make that prediction.
I mean when you hear the term 'big names' do you really think they aint gonna get in?

You do realise this thread isn't saying these artists are the best in the world?

It is simply saying which artists are Music Banters FAVOURITES... There is a difference.

Doesn't suggest that we think these artists are the best in the world, just who we as a community love.

That is the concept of 'Hall Of Fame' though isnt it.
Also 'Music Banter' isnt exactly a person in itself and the posters on here all each have their individual opinions which should be considered rather than doing daft polls based on 'popular opinion.
Sorry but I just dont agree with this thread.

Yes, the concept of the HOF in this case is to highlight our favourites... How hard is that to understand?

Everyone has the chance to voice their opinion in the threads, and then they vote... It isn't based on popular opinion because there is no reason to base it on an opinion other than your own. Otherwise bands such as Led Zep, The Beach Boys, The Smiths would have easily been inducted into the HOF, yet they weren't.

Well, hard enough that you had to reiterate in your 2nd last post that it was the point of the Hall Of Fame, whereas I see no point in having these things at all. So tell me when all the votes come in for the bands, you dont count them up but rather make a decision based on your own opinion?
Whoa, I dont think people will be too happy about that...

As someone who voted no for Pink Floyd, Chuck Berry, The Beach Boys and Radiohead's entry, Im going to say no, I dont think the "Big Names" are certain shoe ins. I mean Christ Led Zeppelin are not in but Public Enemy are

It is early days with it and I've not managed to get a nomination put up yet myself, but Im sure I wont be alone in nominating an act who are obscure to many in the outside world and yet championed on this place, or even perhaps not thought of as anything at all yet.

The list is below just incase you've not seen it, but I dont think of King Crimson, Public Enemy or Tom Waits as massive names, but I do think they fit in with the opening lines explaining what this process is all about.

Led Zeppelin 20 to 7 (Eligible for renomination)
Joy Division 22 to 7 (Inducted)
Elliott Smith 16 to 13 (Eligible for renomination)
The Beatles 25 to 4 (Inducted)
King Crimson 23 to 5 (Inducted)
Wu-Tang Clan 19 to 19 (Eligible for renomination)
The Velvet Underground 28 to 4 (Inducted)
Radiohead 24 to 9 (Inducted)
The Kinks 29 to 4 (Inducted)
The Beach Boys 26 to 13 (Eligible for renominaton)
Public Enemy 24 to 16 (Inducted)
Frank Zappa 24 to 5 (Inducted)
The Clash 33 to 11 (Inducted)
Bob Dylan 33 to 3 (Inducted)
Pink Floyd 31 to 7 (Inducted)
Big Black 13 to 6 (Eligible for renominaton)
Tom Waits 25 to 4 (Inducted)
The Smiths 33 to 7 (Eligible for renominaton)
Chuck Berry 22 to 16 (Eligible for renominaton)

Failed to be nominated

Yes 15 to 19
Porcupine Tree 10 to 13
At The Drive-In 8 to 22
Public Image Ltd 11 to 21
Neutral Milk Hotel 10 to 30
Echo and the Bunnymen 14 to 16
The Mars Volta 8 to 23

I don't care if you do or don't like the premise, but I will debate the idea of them when your basis of disliking this one in particular is obviously flawed.

You vote in the poll and then in here based on your opinion. Stop being a smart arse for the sake of it :p:

Of course, it is much much easier to complain about things you don't like than contribute positively to threads about things you do love without putting down other music :p:.

But as Ive already said I dont agree with the concept of these 'Hall Of Fame' things. So no, I aint going to vote for anything as I feel it is inappropriate when I dont agree with it in the first place. I saw the list and most of the inclusions bar a few are mostly mainstream predictable entries.
Just because there are a load of Prog Rockers on here is the only reason the likes of 'King Crimson' got in ('Yes' nearly...).
The only 'Hall Of Fame' (although I hate the term) I would be interested in would be one that embraces more styles of music other than just Rock and its subgenres. I have already previously mentioned other genres such as Jazz, Electronic,Soul,Funk,even Avant Garde stuff, which sadly went unnoticed.