Does anyone agreee that there is too much music out there? (albums, reviews)

Schizotypic · 04-05-2009, 01:18 AM

I believe it's a control issue. For example, from what I've read on this forum about punk, it used to be a rebellion sort of deal. Now it has rules, and is a style, and safety-pined shirts are sold at stores for 50$ more then they should be, and the lyrics of certain "punk" bands today reflect that in their pointlessness. So, where exactly did the rebellion go? Wait, where did any of the provocative music on the radio go? Not only is just Bikini Kill not being given access to the majority, with their awful feminist views, but also Nick Cave isn't on the radio- too much talent, too twisted, it's just not fit for the public. Or... is it? Is the public really identifying with, relating to, being inspired by this bubblegum "everyone is happy" Jonas brother crap, or is that just what the media puts out there so kids grow-up thinking that's just how music is. Oh wait, did I say thinking, I meant buying.

Anyway, it isn't that hard of an obstacle to overcome. It's not like some gigantic conspiracy, people just move more towards controlled things in general. But there is another group, MusicBanter, the valiant Savior of all that is controversial! The open-minded forum that will one day fulfill it's destiny and sew the media for massive wide-spread demoralization and general crimes against society.

onionbuskut · 04-06-2009, 07:46 PM

Going underground is a good way to find effing great music
Zune's pimpin sweet Mix View feature is a prudddy decent way to find music, the Social is nice too

~~Flower Child~~ · 04-07-2009, 01:23 PM

Interesting thread, I have thought about this too.

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Originally Posted by The Music Watchtower

Hi All,
The thing is that the whole industry is money driven, more so than ever and I feel that it clouds the vision of lots of producers, writers, bands and performers. If you get signed and your music is not commercial enough, big labes want to change it.

not necessarily. Lots of artists have proved that you don't have to do what industry wants you to do. Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson, for example, felt that Nashville was taking them and molding them into what Nashville wanted at that time, not what they really were. So they said screw you Nashville, and they did what they wanted, they sang what they wanted, they wrote what they sang...ect. AND THEY made it. You know why? Because they had the talent to make it. They didn't need machines and equalizers to make their music sound good. (This is going back to my Taylor Swift post)

Too many people are getting in nowadays that have ZERO talent simply because if you are fair then they figure if they marketed you well enough, and they can tweak your voice to sound good then well through this crap out there and see if people buy into it.....or at least not riot against it. Its all TO MAKE MONEY NOWADAYS.

**Janszoon** · 04-07-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Flower Child

Its all TO MAKE MONEY NOWADAYS.

As opposed to what time period?

~~Flower Child~~ · 04-07-2009, 01:48 PM

yeah, but back in the day they were puttin out music worthy of making money off so it was a win win situation. The people were getting good music and the industry was making their money. Not so nowadays.

4ZZZ · 04-07-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Flower Child

yeah, but back in the day they were puttin out music worthy of making money off so it was a win win situation. The people were getting good music and the industry was making their money. Not so nowadays.

So now days there is no music worthy of making money off?

boo boo · 04-16-2009, 03:57 PM

I like simplicity.

I just find that a lot of punk and indie takes the concept a little too far.

I can't find much admiration in bands who write one chord riff songs that I could have written myself without even trying. It's like a lot of punk and indie bands just crap stuff out.

And when Pitchfork makes them out to be masterpieces while writing off musicians who actually DO spend the time to polish and structure their music as pretentious wankery, well it just makes me mad, it's an insult to real musicians.

If anything, it's the other way around.

**Janszoon** · 04-16-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I like simplicity.

I just find that a lot of punk and indie takes the concept a little too far.

I can't find much admiration in bands who write one chord riff songs that I could have written myself without even trying. It's like a lot of punk and indie bands just crap stuff out.

And when Pitchfork makes them out to be masterpieces while writing off musicians who actually DO spend the time to polish and structure their music as pretentious wankery, well it just makes me mad, it's an insult to real musicians.

If anything, it's the other way around.

The amount of time someone puts into a piece of art isn't really the deciding factor in how good it is though. It would be kind of nice if simple hard work was what made a song good or bad but really the final product is what matters most. Sometimes a great final product is the result of lots of hard work but sometimes it's just very off the cuff thing.

~~The Unfan~~ · 04-07-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flower Child

yeah, but back in the day they were puttin out music worthy of making money off so it was a win win situation. The people were getting good music and the industry was making their money. Not so nowadays.

The industry has always been just that, an industry. It is a business and so those involved with it are seeking money. They released what was marketable at the time, as do industries now. Just because you found the marketable music of whatever era more likeable than the marketable music of today doesn't mean it wasn't the same crap. You'd be naive to think Pink Floyd weren't busy wondering about what to wear at their performances or how to part their hair. It was all just as prefabricated as today's. Besides, there were plenty of great bands from back in the day that we haven't heard and probably never will. Just like today there are great artists you've never heard.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 04-16-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan

The industry has always been just that, an industry. It is a business and so those involved with it are seeking money. They released what was marketable at the time, as do industries now. Just because you found the marketable music of whatever era more likeable than the marketable music of today doesn't mean it wasn't the same crap. You'd be naive to think Pink Floyd weren't busy wondering about what to wear at their performances or how to part their hair. It was all just as prefabricated as today's. Besides, there were plenty of great bands from back in the day that we haven't heard and probably never will. Just like today there are great artists you've never heard.

This is true, and I think that's what makes music so appealing, there's a sense of mystery to it. If you're resourceful enough you will be able to find the lesser known bands/artists and appreciate the beauty of music that hasn't been industrialized.

04-05-2009, 01:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Schizotypic Souls of Sound Sailors Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mojave Posts: 759	I believe it's a control issue. For example, from what I've read on this forum about punk, it used to be a rebellion sort of deal. Now it has rules, and is a style, and safety-pined shirts are sold at stores for 50$ more then they should be, and the lyrics of certain "punk" bands today reflect that in their pointlessness. So, where exactly did the rebellion go? Wait, where did any of the provocative music on the radio go? Not only is just Bikini Kill not being given access to the majority, with their awful feminist views, but also Nick Cave isn't on the radio- too much talent, too twisted, it's just not fit for the public. Or... is it? Is the public really identifying with, relating to, being inspired by this bubblegum "everyone is happy" Jonas brother crap, or is that just what the media puts out there so kids grow-up thinking that's just how music is. Oh wait, did I say thinking, I meant buying. Anyway, it isn't that hard of an obstacle to overcome. It's not like some gigantic conspiracy, people just move more towards controlled things in general. But there is another group, MusicBanter, the valiant Savior of all that is controversial! The open-minded forum that will one day fulfill it's destiny and sew the media for massive wide-spread demoralization and general crimes against society.

04-06-2009, 07:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
onionbuskut Groupie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston! Posts: 13	Going underground is a good way to find effing great music Zune's pimpin sweet Mix View feature is a prudddy decent way to find music, the Social is nice too

04-07-2009, 01:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~Flower Child~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: classified Posts: 639	yeah, but back in the day they were puttin out music worthy of making money off so it was a win win situation. The people were getting good music and the industry was making their money. Not so nowadays.