I like everything but country and rap... (bs) (hip-hop, punk)

jackhammer · 03-24-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

i dig the music, but listening to their stuff i get a very black panther feel... they come off as those people who are so deeply affected by the racism against african americans that they themselves resort to racism.

Yeah that vid does sem that way and although i have their 'Let's Get Free' album I don't know any background on the band.

simplephysics · 03-24-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

i dig the music, but listening to their stuff i get a very black panther feel... they come off as those people who are so deeply affected by the racism against african americans that they themselves resort to racism.

haha, like MF Doom's really early stuff.. before he was MF Doom, there's a pretty strong 'kill whitey' vibe in some of that material.

joyboyo53 · 03-24-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught

haha, like MF Doom's really early stuff.. before he was MF Doom, there's a pretty strong 'kill whitey' vibe in some of that material.

i honestly dont listen to much MF Doom so i wouldnt know about that; i just know a lot of my friends who listen to more rap than me talk him up big. like i said, rap isnt my favorite genre i just hate how everyone comes in with the same bull**** attitude towards rap and country. all music has relevance.

simplephysics · 03-24-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85

i honestly dont listen to much MF Doom so i wouldnt know about that; i just know a lot of my friends who listen to more rap than me talk him up big. like i said, rap isnt my favorite genre i just hate how everyone comes in with the same bull**** attitude towards rap and country. all music has relevance.

I can respect that, but again, the genre is called hip hop.. not rap! I agree with you though, people shouldn't dismiss an entire genre if they've only heard the ****tiest of examples, or if anything at all.

Molecules · 03-24-2009, 04:46 PM

sheez if you don't like the 'kill whitey' vibe you might as well forget anything affiliated with Wu-Tang and a bunch of names that won't mean anything to you. But if you check I think you'll find most of the hip-hop figureheads of now and yesteryear were/are members of the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X's church (before they killed him for not being corrupt and greedy, ironic much?)... if you want to narrow it down to nice Utopian hip-hop then you are talking De La Soul... but even Tribe and especially Jungle Brothers had plenty of black separatist overtones.

It's one of my favourite parts of hip-hop to be honest.
I haven't heard the Dead Prez thing in question, but it's not to say there is (often) open talk of killing white people, just getting as far away from them as f*cking possible

edit: and anyone that dismisses hip-hop and country entirely is... how can I put this.. a child. Or they certainly don't spend enough time listening to music to warrant signing up to a forum full of nuts. It's not subjective taste, you are missing a piece of your soul and you won't find it here. get your song title and GO AWAY

sweet_nothing · 03-24-2009, 04:57 PM

I like rap but I still cant stand country, alot of people say 'what about Jonny Cash', he's barely country to me, he's like the Bob Dylan of country everyone likes atleast one of his songs. But still cant get into country.

4ZZZ · 03-24-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

I like rap but I still cant stand country, alot of people say 'what about Jonny Cash', he's barely country to me, he's like the Bob Dylan of country everyone likes atleast one of his songs. But still cant get into country.

But he is. The vast majority of his music is Country. He was influenced by Hank Williams. I have said it before and I will say it again. There is a young audience that only now like him due to Hurt.

I am not trying to force you to like Country but you don't get it if you think that Cash is not Country.

Alfred · 03-24-2009, 05:07 PM

Some damn good country.

Molecules · 03-24-2009, 05:11 PM

yeah JC is definitely country, and if you are into Bob Dylan you are halfway there really.
It's easier to digest country when you forget anything remotely modern (or whatever you'd call Garth Brooks and bands with plaid vests and on-stage pyrotechnics) and go back to all the really cool crossovers - Grateful Dead, Bobby D, the Stones... for me personally anyway.
I only recently graduated on to full-on country which maybe isn't for everyone but you need to hear the right stuff.

Although going on the assumption that living in Texas you are having it shoved down your throat from birth, I don't think i'd be too eager either

NSW · 03-24-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Molecules

Although going on the assumption that living in Texas you are having it shoved down your throat from birth, I don't think i'd be too eager either

I don't know where sweets is in Texas, but I can say having been born here that country music wasn't "shoved down" my throat. It may have to do with being in a big city though.

My point is...yes, country music is big here, but sometimes I get the feeling that (and I'm not pointing any fingers) people think we all wear cowboy hats, ride horses, have shot guns and own every album by Hank Williams and Dolly Parton or whoever else. lol...not so.

Sorry to get a little of subject...

03-24-2009, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	sheez if you don't like the 'kill whitey' vibe you might as well forget anything affiliated with Wu-Tang and a bunch of names that won't mean anything to you. But if you check I think you'll find most of the hip-hop figureheads of now and yesteryear were/are members of the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X's church (before they killed him for not being corrupt and greedy, ironic much?)... if you want to narrow it down to nice Utopian hip-hop then you are talking De La Soul... but even Tribe and especially Jungle Brothers had plenty of black separatist overtones. It's one of my favourite parts of hip-hop to be honest. I haven't heard the Dead Prez thing in question, but it's not to say there is (often) open talk of killing white people, just getting as far away from them as fcking possible edit: and anyone that dismisses hip-hop and country entirely is... how can I put this.. a child. Or they certainly don't spend enough time listening to music to warrant signing up to a forum full of nuts. It's not subjective taste, you are missing a piece of your soul and you won't find it here. get your song title and GO AWAY __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her Last edited by Molecules; 03-24-2009 at 04:51 PM.*

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Alfred one big soul Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 5,096	Some damn good country. __________________ LAST.FM / VINYL COLLECTION / RYM

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Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	yeah JC is definitely country, and if you are into Bob Dylan you are halfway there really. It's easier to digest country when you forget anything remotely modern (or whatever you'd call Garth Brooks and bands with plaid vests and on-stage pyrotechnics) and go back to all the really cool crossovers - Grateful Dead, Bobby D, the Stones... for me personally anyway. I only recently graduated on to full-on country which maybe isn't for everyone but you need to hear the right stuff. Although going on the assumption that living in Texas you are having it shoved down your throat from birth, I don't think i'd be too eager either __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her