Bands you hate that everyone else loves

lucifer_sam · 05-21-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Fixed.

i liked it better how i wrote it.

Comus · 05-22-2009, 12:05 AM

I'll agree with sam on this one.

boo boo · 05-22-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

i liked it better how i wrote it.

Hardcore fanboys are annoying no matter what band it is.

I admit, I sometimes take my Yes fanboism to pretty irritating extremes for some people.

Neapolitan · 05-22-2009, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

it seems a lot of people that LOVE the Beatles (i don't mean casual fans, i mean the crazy ones) haven't heard anything else that's similar to them. the people that usually cite the Beatles as "the best band ever" probably haven't heard anything by The Pretty Things, 13th Floor Elevators, The Monkees, Moby, Sony and Cher, The Bee Gees, Love, etc.

Fixed.

Well on the same token, People who HATE The Beatles (and I don't mean the casual hater) don't now how The Beatels influenced The Smithereens.

Mirrorball95 · 05-22-2009, 05:50 AM

Gee this ones piss easy! Beatles, Rolling Stones, U2, Snow Patrol, Elvis Costello, Elvis, Weezer, Oasis, Kings of Leon, Kaiser Chiefs, Linkin Park, Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Nickelback,Keane, The Enemy, Paul Mccartney/Wings, Coldplay......

Comus · 05-22-2009, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

For someone who claims to have listened to over 1001 albums, you know alarmingly little about music.

My 1,500 post so I'll make this one special just for you.

Let me make a few guidelines clear:

1. This thread is about bands you hate that everyone else loves
2. The thread is thus subjective
3. All music is subjective
4. As such words such as "listenable" are subjective
5. Disliking the Beatles =/= not knowing anything about music

The Beatles influence is undeniable, but when put up against say Muddy Waters, or any of the Delta Blues greats that inspired the early-mid-60's British blues movement it's virtually nil. Beatles inspired countless bland pop groups, and still does. These blues guitarists directly inspired bands and players such as the Rolling Stones, The Yardbirds, Jethro Tull, Peter Green, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, who's collective influence surpasses the Beatles tenfold in terms of rock music.

If you want to listen to bland, boring poppy rock, why not just turn on your radio? You're kidding yourself if you think that listening to the Beatles is any different than your regular pop band of today, it's all the same, the Beatles are just more musically acceptable. My point that they were not about the music is valid, they got famous for portraying an image. Girls loved them, guys wanted to be them, and that old cliche.

I remember watching a Robert Plant and John Bonham interview recorded about 1970 where they were talking about the Beatles. Bonham said something along the lines of "People went there to look at them, not to hear them play, I went to a beatles concert to look at them too." They then went on to say that their music was all about the music, and after that it got a bit more boring, but the point stands. And what greater perspective than right there? Plant and Bonham both said it wasn't the Beatles fault, it was just the times, people needed something to look at and not listen to.

Modern rock today would be the same without the beatles, of that I have no doubt, but modern pop wouldn't. People immediately assume that every british band to come out from the sixties did so because of the Beatles, I mean come on what? Beatles released their first albums when? 1963? By that time the underground scene was all about the Blues The Rolling Stones had formed, and the Pretty Things were well on their way. This had nothing to do with the Beatles, but everything to do with the likes of Howling Wolf, Jimmy Reed, Willie Dixon and the likes.

The argument that "without the beatles a lot of the bands you listen to wouldn't exist" is utter rubbish. Come back when you change "without the beatles" to "without the delta blues". You clearly have no clue about the true influences. We're talking about rock here, hard gritty, filthy rock. What about Chuck Berry? He was shredding it half a decade before the Beatles, what about Buddy Holly and the Crickets? The Shadows (they were even british!) What about Little Richard? He had already gone gospel for a short time before the Beatles had even formed!

Now that your point is totally and utterly moot. What about you? The moment anyone, in a thread totally unrelated to you, talks bad about a band you like, your immediate reaction is to launch personal attacks. To be quite honest that type of behaviour is not really the kind of thing we want from a moderator. You more than anyone should know that everyone is entitled to their opinions, and that it's no crime state them. You've said yourself that I've done nothing worthy of even an infraction, but I'd quite argue you have. You constantly step out of line, yet you do exactly what you chastise others for doing.

When you bash a band it's "expressing my opinion" when someone else bashes a band it's "ignorant".

That is all.

Mirrorball95 · 05-22-2009, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comus

My 1,500 post so I'll make this one special just for you.

Let me make a few guidelines clear:

1. This thread is about bands you hate that everyone else loves
2. The thread is thus subjective
3. All music is subjective
4. As such words such as "listenable" are subjective
5. Disliking the Beatles =/= not knowing anything about music

The Beatles influence is undeniable, but when put up against say Muddy Waters, or any of the Delta Blues greats that inspired the early-mid-60's British blues movement it's virtually nil. Beatles inspired countless bland pop groups, and still does. These blues guitarists directly inspired bands and players such as the Rolling Stones, The Yardbirds, Jethro Tull, Peter Green, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, who's collective influence surpasses the Beatles tenfold in terms of rock music.

If you want to listen to bland, boring poppy rock, why not just turn on your radio? You're kidding yourself if you think that listening to the Beatles is any different than your regular pop band of today, it's all the same, the Beatles are just more musically acceptable. My point that they were not about the music is valid, they got famous for portraying an image. Girls loved them, guys wanted to be them, and that old cliche.

I remember watching a Robert Plant and John Bonham interview recorded about 1970 where they were talking about the Beatles. Bonham said something along the lines of "People went there to look at them, not to hear them play, I went to a beatles concert to look at them too." They then went on to say that their music was all about the music, and after that it got a bit more boring, but the point stands. And what greater perspective than right there? Plant and Bonham both said it wasn't the Beatles fault, it was just the times, people needed something to look at and not listen to.

Modern rock today would be the same without the beatles, of that I have no doubt, but modern pop wouldn't. People immediately assume that every british band to come out from the sixties did so because of the Beatles, I mean come on what? Beatles released their first albums when? 1963? By that time the underground scene was all about the Blues The Rolling Stones had formed, and the Pretty Things were well on their way. This had nothing to do with the Beatles, but everything to do with the likes of Howling Wolf, Jimmy Reed, Willie Dixon and the likes.

The argument that "without the beatles a lot of the bands you listen to wouldn't exist" is utter rubbish. Come back when you change "without the beatles" to "without the delta blues". You clearly have no clue about the true influences. We're talking about rock here, hard gritty, filthy rock. What about Chuck Berry? He was shredding it half a decade before the Beatles, what about Buddy Holly and the Crickets? The Shadows (they were even british!) What about Little Richard? He had already gone gospel for a short time before the Beatles had even formed!

Now that your point is totally and utterly moot. What about you? The moment anyone, in a thread totally unrelated to you, talks bad about a band you like, your immediate reaction is to launch personal attacks. To be quite honest that type of behaviour is not really the kind of thing we want from a moderator. You more than anyone should know that everyone is entitled to their opinions, and that it's no crime state them. You've said yourself that I've done nothing worthy of even an infraction, but I'd quite argue you have. You constantly step out of line, yet you do exactly what you chastise others for doing.

When you bash a band it's "expressing my opinion" when someone else bashes a band it's "ignorant".

That is all.

Surprisingly I agree with you Comus, I hold the same views on the Beatles & your right about all the blues artists, to me they dont get the recognition they deserve.
Still you cant take away the influence the Beatles had on popular music.

As for Boo boo, I remember saying to him that the rolling stones & the beatles are both overrated or whatever & he basically replied saying 'You havent heard a lot of music then have you' which backs up your personal insults claims.

As for the infraction thing, I dont think a moderator can get one of those lol.

~~The Unfan~~ · 05-22-2009, 07:28 AM

Thank God I'm not the only one who thinks Booboo is a terrible mod.

Going to go with a ****ton of metalcore for bands I dislike that seem to be well loved. The worst offender probably being As I Lay Dying.

~~coryallen2~~ · 05-22-2009, 07:34 AM

I hate

1. System of A Down

2. KoRn

3. The Pink Spiders

4. Slipknot

5. Mushroom Head

6. U2

7. The Rolling Stones

Mirrorball95 · 05-22-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by coryallen2

I hate

1. System of A Down

2. KoRn

3. The Pink Spiders

4. Slipknot

5. Mushroom Head

6. U2

7. The Rolling Stones

I agree with all apart from: System Of A Down who i think are pretty good. Korn are also alright to me.
Who the **** are 'Mushroom Head' or 'The Pink Spiders' lol. I guess by your standards they aint worth checking out? Good list anyway man.

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~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	I hate 1. System of A Down 2. KoRn 3. The Pink Spiders 4. Slipknot 5. Mushroom Head 6. U2 7. The Rolling Stones