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Old 11-01-2023, 07:21 PM   #32551 (permalink)
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Have to post this one too, can't get it off my mind. The violin (as well as the vocal chorus) is so powerful. Like the title, Volya. Will. This song feels a thousand years old....

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Old 11-01-2023, 10:37 PM   #32552 (permalink)
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That's funny, an employee who COULD NOT WORK without music ..... but maybe it's also sad because he may not have really enjoyed music as much, because he listened to 'too much' of it.
Well, it was his words that he cannot work without music. And together with him, the whole office at the production site listened to his music I think he didn't enjoy the music so much, he just needed the rhythm of the music, which in a certain way set the pace of his work. For example, music helped me work when I had to work at night and I really wanted to sleep, it just chased away sleep, but in normal mode I mostly work in silence.
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I forgot how much fun Sia's videos are to watch, she has SO MUCH ENERGY! Probably why she's so tiny?
I'm not a fan of Sia, I just sometimes listen to a few of her songs, but somewhere I saw information that in those clips it's not her, but a teenage girl dancer. They just found a young girl who looked like her and made a similar hairstyle.
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I heard about Asia Ahat more than once, but I did not follow her biography and creativity, to my shame. After reading about her, I realized that I missed a lot. I need to fill this gap.
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And this, a Hindu song by Vera B.....
And I know Vera Brezhneva, but I am not consciously interested in her work. By the way, I also listened to this song on that radio together with man, who cannot work without music . It's just that she sang mainly in Russian until 2022. And there were too many Russian-language songs in our cultural space at one time. That is, until then she worked for Russian culture in Ukraine and it would not be so critical if all this for Ukrainians was not so closely connected with the bloody events that we are experiencing now. Because the Russian cultural expansion was followed by the occupation of precisely those Ukrainian lands where there was the largest number of Russian-speaking population, which gravitated more towards Russian culture than in other regions, with the destruction of cities, a large number of immigrants and refugees. In addition, when her Russian presenter once showed that she was marked as a Ukrainian singer on some website and asked if she considered herself one, she denied and said that she did not consider herself one. Only after a full-scale invasion did she change her clothes in the air and start singing Ukrainian songs. By the way, her surname is not at all the same as that of one of the rulers of the USSR. Brezhneva is her pseudonym. In fact, her name is Vera Galushka. I understand that this song is neutral for you, and that's fine. And I'm not saying that I don't listen to Russian songs at all. But I listen to them very rarely and for me there are certain reasons for this, but this is a separate topic.
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Have to post this one too, can't get it off my mind. The violin (as well as the vocal chorus) is so powerful. Like the title, Volya. Will. This song feels a thousand years old....
Yes, a very strong and beautiful melody! And elements of Ukrainian folk songs. Since this is already the case, I will also present here one Ukrainian folk ritual song, which was sung at Christmas. Although this song is most likely pre-Christian, as well as the Ukrainian "Schedryk", known in the world under the name "Carol of the Bells".

And the promised songs of the Ukrainian electro-folk band ONUKA. The band is quite famous in the world, especially after its performance at the Eurovision Song Contest (not as a participant in this competition). The band's soloist Nataliya Zhizhchenko gave the band such a name (onuka - granddaughter), because after the loss of her father, her grandfather played a significant role in her upbringing, who instilled in her a love of music. Her father was the liquidator of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, and he died from exposure when she was young. Therefore, at least two of her songs ("Vidlik" and "19 86") are dedicated to this tragedy. In general, she has many wonderful works such as "Vsesvit", "Peremoha", "Misto", "Guma", "Svitanok", "Голос води" (collaboration of several artists, including Natalia Zhizhchenko and her husband), but not all you will list.


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Old 11-02-2023, 11:04 AM   #32554 (permalink)
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'Le Sable', the sand. Watching the video I think of something like 'the sands of time'. Can you tell me what does this song means, its significance? I know very little French. Thank you.
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SO busy, getting ready to go out of town for a stupid budget conference. And starting on Friday, it's insane. This may be my last post for a few days....regretfully.

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...Sia.... teenage girl dancer
That's funny but watching her dance and bounce around is amazing.

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Asia Ahat....
My kohannya (is that a good word for me to use? kind of like rusky 'dushen'ka'?) loves strong violin and that's how he found her I suppose. And then he bought that CD 'Homo Novus'.

Would love to know the lyrics of that Ukrainian folk song by Mnishek.

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....Ukrainian electro-folk band ONUKA.......
Anything 'Electro' will always get my attention. But WOW that first song.... and also the last one, both seem to have a lot of symbolism. And that long horn.... looks (and sounds) like an Australian didgeridoo?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ty_1070%29.jpg

I almost hate to mention the Mongolian hints in the first video because, well, istorichna. Batu Khan and Kiev, 1240. The Mongolian Terror. But still, that was then and this is now. I've posted this song in another topic but I couldn't help wanting to play this song again. I can't resist anything that vibrates my senses like this throat singing and it's just amazing.

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Old 11-02-2023, 12:29 PM   #32556 (permalink)
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Thank you for this song! I wish the Jewish people and the state of Israel victory and prosperity! Ukrainians and the Jewish people are now fighting on the same side. We also know on our own skin what it is like not to have our own state for centuries and what genocide is...
And what happened in Dagestan has a real basis and is only a small puzzle of a bigger picture. Back in 2006, in the Russian-speaking segment of the Internet, I got acquainted with the phenomenon that a couple of years later I conceptualized and called "informational worldview spaces" and I somehow managed to avoid becoming a supporter of any of them. Many of them were built around anti-Semitism. Now I understand that these things were FSB projects, which they first tested on Russians (the events in Dagestan are a consequence of that process), and then spread to other countries, in particular where they planned to use it. What happened in the Gaza Strip and what is happening in other countries where actions in support of the Palestinians are taking place, in my opinion, did not happen without these technologies developed in Russia. I think the time has come when the freedom of propaganda must be separated from the freedom of speech and this shameful phenomenon must be effectively counteracted, otherwise we are on the verge of the decline of human civilization.
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'Le Sable', the sand. Watching the video I think of something like 'the sands of time'. Can you tell me what does this song means, its significance? I know very little French. Thank you.
I found this English translation. Would love to read Jadis's answer thoughabout this song.
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Yes, I will defend the sand of Israel,
The land of Israel, the children of Israel;
Left to die for the sand of Israel,
The land of Israel, the children of Israel;
I will defend against any enemy,

Sand and earth, which I was promised
Left to die for the sand of Israel,
The cities of Israel, the land of Israel;
All the Goliaths from the pyramids,
Retreat before the Star of David.
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Thank you for this song! I wish the Jewish people and the state of Israel victory and prosperity! Ukrainians and the Jewish people are now fighting on the same side. We also know on our own skin what it is like not to have our own state for centuries and what genocide is...
And what happened in Dagestan has a real basis and is only a small puzzle of a bigger picture. Back in 2006, in the Russian-speaking segment of the Internet, I got acquainted with the phenomenon that a couple of years later I conceptualized and called "informational worldview spaces" and I somehow managed to avoid becoming a supporter of any of them. Many of them were built around anti-Semitism. Now I understand that these things were FSB projects, which they first tested on Russians (the events in Dagestan are a consequence of that process), and then spread to other countries, in particular where they planned to use it. What happened in the Gaza Strip and what is happening in other countries where actions in support of the Palestinians are taking place, in my opinion, did not happen without these technologies developed in Russia. I think the time has come when the freedom of propaganda must be separated from the freedom of speech and this shameful phenomenon must be effectively counteracted, otherwise we are on the verge of the decline of human civilization.

I found this English translation. Would love to read Jadis's answer thoughabout this song.
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Yes, I will defend the sand of Israel,
The land of Israel, the children of Israel;
Left to die for the sand of Israel,
The land of Israel, the children of Israel;
I will defend against any enemy,

Sand and earth, which I was promised
Left to die for the sand of Israel,
The cities of Israel, the land of Israel;
All the Goliaths from the pyramids,
Retreat before the Star of David.

Hey Sergiy, nice to have you on MB! You sound like a very interesting guy.

As it happens, I'm not Jewish, I'm in Israel for work. I do speak Russian though, my parents immigrated to Canada when I was a small boy in the 1990s.

I think you're spot on about the common cause of Ukraine and Israel: both national movements have long been fiercely hated by the Kremlin, going way back to the Soviet times. I am less familiar with the case of Ukraine, but I've been reading a lot over the years about the astonishing resilience of Stalinist vocabulary and rhetoric in anti-Israeli propaganda. "Anti-Zionism is not antisemitism", "Israel is the new Nazi Germany", "Israel is the vanguard of global imperialism", "Zionism is the real antisemitism" and all that horse$hit can be traced back to Stalin's antisemitic campaigns in the last years of his life. The spread of these braindead cliches to the USSR's client states in the third world and to its useful idiots in the first is well documented, and boy have they persisted. Of course the scary surge in antisemitism we see worldwide is fuelled by multiple new factors, Putin's cyber propaganda among them... but the verbal formulas of Stalinist "anti-Zionism" are still with us, somehow. Truly, a zombie ideology.

Have you seen Хрусталёв, маши́ну? It's one of the best films ever. It's set in 1953. There's an amazing scene where schoolyard bullies are beating up a Jewish kid and calmly explain that they're doing this because his family are "Zionists" and actually they have nothing against Jews...

From the bottom of my heart, wish you and all Ukrainians all the very best and may your resistance against pure evil end in victory, sooner rather than later.
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Thank you Sergiy! The thing is I usually don't think of 'Israel' and 'sand' because there is much to like in the Israeli landscapes that I have seen.... I think because the people are proud and respectful of who they are and the 'sand' that they (rightfully) claim as their own.

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As it happens, I'm not Jewish...

I think you're spot on about the common cause of Ukraine and Israel..
My comment to Sergiy is meant for you too and I expect you can tell us all a lot more about the landscape of modern Israel. I actually envy you in a small way, that you can see Israel with your own eyes and even feel it. I'm sure I don't have to tell you how much Israel means to a great many Americans, I want to say the vast majority of 'Americans' including Canadians, native or immigrant. Thank you for posting that song.
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Thank you Sergiy! The thing is I usually don't think of 'Israel' and 'sand' because there is much to like in the Israeli landscapes that I have seen.... I think because the people are proud and respectful of who they are and the 'sand' that they (rightfully) claim as their own.



My comment to Sergiy is meant for you too and I expect you can tell us all a lot more about the landscape of modern Israel. I actually envy you in a small way, that you can see Israel with your own eyes and even feel it. I'm sure I don't have to tell you how much Israel means to a great many Americans, I want to say the vast majority of 'Americans' including Canadians, native or immigrant. Thank you for posting that song.
I would say the opinions are divided... In Montreal it's always been a huge issue, very divisive. The more established Jewish community and the Anglo protestant establishment are very pro-Israel, whereas immigrants from places like Morocco and Lebanon have different views. Plus there are four universities so there are thousands of 20-year-olds who love wrapping themselves up in the Palestinian flag and shouting slogans about colonialism, whatever their heritage may be. A certain type of French-Canadians, or Quebecois, are very suspicious of Israel but not for any cool Fanon-quoting reasons, just plain old Catholic antisemitism. But then there are some supporting it for weird religious reasons. Many different projections...

Israel has lots of sand though, the entire south is just the Negev desert, then there are all the beaches and stuff

The Gainsbourg song... It's a real rarity, I'm a big fan of his and I only learned of it now. It was written and recorded at the request of the Israeli ambassador to France before the Six Day war, when it was clear Israel is going to be attacked and the diplomat wanted to somehow support the troops, like through a new song from France's greatest songwriter written just for them. It was never released in France, it was played one time on the Israeli radio and then lay in the archives forgotten for decades.

I think it's a great song that doesn't sound like anything else he's written. Like many French Jews of his generation, he was very proud of his Jewishness but also of his Frenchness, so he supported Israel from afar. His view of it was rather colored by the Bible it seems.
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I would say the opinions are divided... In Montreal it's always been a huge issue, very divisive. The more established Jewish community and the Anglo protestant establishment are very pro-Israel, whereas immigrants from places like Morocco and Lebanon have different views. Plus there are four universities so there are thousands of 20-year-olds who love wrapping themselves up in the Palestinian flag and shouting slogans about colonialism, whatever their heritage may be....
Oh believe me I know all about that kind of thing because it's scattered all across the US, not localized at all. And of course universities are always front and center or very close to it. (There are 3 major universities within an hour's drive of where I live.) There are actually quite a few people that believe these protests are organized, funded and equipped behind the scenes. Yeah conspiracy theory, but it's funny how so many of these groups can sound and look so much the same, same chants and rants, same signs, all of that..... from NYC to Los Angeles.... blooming like spring lilies (or rather hemlock) all over the place. I'm probably rambling because I'm exhausted (very long day) so I'll just shut up now. Except to say I'm glad to meet both you and Sergiy here, was totally unexpected (for me anyway) in a forum like this.

My version of 'easy listening' before bedtime. From an Israeli electronica producer, and Maya Semantov may be Israeli too but I don't know for sure. I've been a huge fan of Offer Nissim's music for more than 10 years. His productions are as perfect as it gets.

Can't get it to display correctly so the full url....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T2dM9_cP0k

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