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Old 08-20-2019, 04:12 PM   #26481 (permalink)
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I don't know, past a couple videos on Youtube from 1977 they seem to sound more like their records afterward. I'm gonna have to do a deep dive I guess. Ugly Suicide is a fetish for me and I don't have enough of it.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:23 PM   #26482 (permalink)
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I know because it replaced the version that has my favorite rendition of "Mr. Ray" on it on my streaming service

this **** gets me PUMPED like I'm in an action movie



Oh snap that's the good stuff. As much as the debut is great, stuff like this is just on another level.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:25 PM   #26483 (permalink)
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By 1975 Suicide were already the coolest and evilest.
You know what I'm officially calling an MB emergency meeting because this is the most primal electronic beat I've ever heard and I feel like there's something concerning the nature of man in there and I can't think about anything else right now.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:36 PM   #26484 (permalink)
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Isn't that just industrial music?
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:38 PM   #26485 (permalink)
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MB has like what, 2 other members that would get it

And one of them will tell you about the classical musician that supposedly did it better
Like **** that. I understand that minimalism like that was being done before, but not in a pop music sense that was easily digestible and immediate. Like, you might have to take a minute to get used to that if you've been raised on a diet of only top 40 but I think you can still understand it as opposed to be thoroughly confused by La Monte Young no matter how hard you try.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:39 PM   #26486 (permalink)
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Isn't that just industrial music?
Kinda yeah. But from 1975. Industrial music did not exist in 1975. Try to find anything that sounded like that from 1975. I'll wait.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:43 PM   #26487 (permalink)
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you could make a case, but industrial doesn't become recognized as a genre for at least another 5 years

it's proto-punk, and proto-punk bands also foreshadowed some of the directions punk would go after '77
But if it came out today it'd just be called industrial. Why would it not be called industrial just because industrial wasn't a genre yet?
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:58 PM   #26488 (permalink)
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that is a good question tbh

the answer is just that it isn't
I'll call it pre-industrial industrial.
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Old 08-20-2019, 07:03 PM   #26489 (permalink)
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Like, you totes could, but it would make more sense to marvel at what a band was able to create all by their ****ing selves with lord knows what influences that were going at the time (I'd love to know Suicide's influences in the mid-late 70s) and then explore what else they were able to do. I mean this for example.



Like I think Suicide might have been the most powerful band of the 70s. The best? I don't know, that's a tall order, but the most powerful quite possibly. They're definitely the band I'd kill the most people to see live when they were in their heyday.
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Old 08-20-2019, 07:13 PM   #26490 (permalink)
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Yeah I know the rockabilly, but if they were able to take rockabilly and with no other influences produce what they did then I'd be ready to call them the greatest band in all of pop music bar ****ing none. I'm sure they had other stuff to run through their filter though. They had to have. I mean kraut rock and the Monks and avant garde whateverthe****.
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