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Plankton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSkKSviyPKk

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The Batlord

After seeing Frown's JPEGMAFIA reference I went to check him out and was bored, then I was like "Hey he dick sucks Armand Hammer and they got Billy Woods" so I checked out Paraffin and was bored. All that complex lyricism and flows or whatever is falling on deaf ears, bro, that's not how I listen to music. Then I went back to History Will Absolve Me to see if I was just misremembering liking Billy Woods. Nah, man. Good ****. Something about the way the opener sounds like he's rapping through tar makes me actually feel tense. Like, you should be rapping at just a slightly higher tempo and that beat isn't helping matters and the feeling makes me want to explode and that's cool.

The moral of the story is I don't care about your details if you can't grab me by the balls and make me feel something with your sound as a whole.

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Frownland

It's all about 2nd Amendment bro



It is dense as **** that's for sure but I think the production is pretty engaging. Rome didn't have that as much but it grew on me a lot, so I'm probably just accustomed to it. If I didn't have that history with Billy Woods I might not have given them as much time. I guess you could say that history absolved him.

I get it and damn straight it's dope.

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The Batlord

I was being dismissive for the sake of the post but I'll go back to see if I can't find more than what I got out of it this time. The post was more me being interested and even confused in how I listen to hip hop and music in general and trying to conceptualize in my own my own mind why I should dig Billy Woods but not feel Armand Hammer. I'm not so concerned with lyricism and the nitty gritty of flow but I love the feeling of a track that twists the way my mind is working at the current moment.

Poetry is something that is largely dead to me. When I write a post or a bad fanfic or whatever I'll ask myself if this or that word is necessary or if there's a better choice, or if this syntax seems basic to the point of feeling like it's a simple description of what I want to say or if it's expressing what I want to say emotionally in an interesting way. But as far as if this sentence has a poetic flow I can't really gauge as that's not me. I'm more concerned with how words can materialize a person to engage with out of thin air when the only thing there is words (and sounds in the case of music). It doesn't have to be complex, it just has to be expressive.

This is why I'd rather listen to ICP or Playboi Carti. They don't concern themselves with lyricism, they concern themselves with forcing themselves into your brain through sheer bull-in-a-china-shop expression of themselves and that unnuanced mentality also seems to be concerned with treating hip hop as pop music rather than a meeting place of music and poetry. Just shove it into my brain with extreme prejudice I suppose. Man, I'm not even sure if I'm saying all that right but close enough. It's all **** I've been trying to put together in my mind as to why I like music how I do for years and it doesn't always make sense even to me.

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Frownland

The music is important, I get that. I think hip hop is the only genre where I'm more forgiving of an album's music if it has strong lyricism, and even then it took me a while to get there. That said I think that Woods generally chooses good producers (though Dour Candy was pretty lackluster on that end).

I gravitate towards artists have both strong traits, but lyrics aren't exactly a requirement. Shabazz, dalek, Woods, and Death Grips come to mind for that.

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The Batlord

I think it's kind of weird for me personally as I have such strong traits that apply to pop music fans or juggalos while also being so different in many other ways. I would never play None So Vile or Wolf Sea Leviathan or Larks Tongues in Aspic for a bunch of ICP fam but I feel those albums very much. And as much as I have fun repping trashy **** to you all, in person I'd never try to get you all to understand Nazi punk or Brooke Candy or The Great Milenko. It feels natural to view musical taste on a spectrum of being more complex vs. less complex but my specific tastes seem to be idiosyncratic enough that this dichotomy is even more useless than it is even for many of the weirdos on here.

It feels like existentialism as music if that makes sense and I'm as interested in existentialism as I am with trying to figure out just why I do or don't like this or that music, even on just an intellectual level. It's fun but with an odd feeling of stress just as with existentialism. I simply don't know where I'm at and that is as exciting as it is confusing.

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MicShazam

All of you dull morons should give this a listen. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread, water droplets on tits and booze.

Kristeen Young - This is War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCYdKmCZqR8

Play it loud on proper speakers.

I just discovered it and I'm ready to proclaim it a masterpiece.

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Mindy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-PgPZ3F9P4

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