Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1940228)

Thanks for responding. That’s a nice piece you linked to. I do like when they branch into that more ethereal impressionistic sound that Debussy mined.

I guess I’m going to have to backtrack and contradict myself a little. I think I made it sound like a felt like the showiness is just a circus act and not rooted in sound composition. I know that’s not true.

However, after time, with the arpeggios blooming out of arpeggios, my mind starts going big picture and I lose the ability to appreciate all the nuances in the minutiae.

A part of me wants to champion it as great music and leave it at that.

I was being lazy using a term like “wankerism” lol. It makes the point of how I feel about it after too much of it for my taste but it doesn’t mean I think the composer has lost the plot. I’m the one who loses the plot.

Originally Posted by josht23musiclover (Post 1940456)

Fair enough, and I tend to take things too literally.

Don't get me wrong, I have some issues with Liszt myself: even his finest works have passages containing frustratingly misjudged static tremolandi/repeated chords that probably seemed like a good idea at the time but have not aged well: it's a real shame because, for example, a masterwork like the B Minor Sonata has three of these small passages in its half hour duration that seem determined to make it just miss out on being one of the greatest works of all time. He also heavily makes use of sequences with varying success.

Chopin lapses less and is more 'finished'/consistent but I don't like him quite as much.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1940467)

So, uh... Kesha released a new song that I guess is a cover that may or may not be just a publicity stunt not in connection with any new album, I don't ****ing know. Like, it's at most 30% actual music and 70% her talking about gay rights and conducting a marriage ceremony for two women cause I guess she's an ordained priest or some ****? And even the music is playing it gets talked over half the time (not that it was the best song anyway). It's beyond self-important twaddle but it's ****ing odd enough to be "queerly" entertaining, and I guess she's at least honest about her feelings on the matter. I just don't understand how this is a music video. It's the modern MTV of music videos.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1940472)

That is the work of a poor man’s Miley Cyrus.

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1940473)

I already thought of Miley Cyrus as a poor man's Ke$ha, so that's a very confusing mental loop.