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Old 04-08-2010, 04:50 PM   #361 (permalink)
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MF DOOM: Everything pre-Born Like This, (excluding Venemous Villain), is top quality.
Why the venomous villiam dislike?

Also, Born Like this had some of Doom's best lyricsm.

Listen to Cellz, Batty Boyz, or Gazzillionear.

Personally i feel like Operation Doomsday and MM..Food were his weakest albums.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:19 PM   #362 (permalink)
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Why the venomous villiam dislike?

Also, Born Like this had some of Doom's best lyricsm.

Listen to Cellz, Batty Boyz, or Gazzillionear.

Personally i feel like Operation Doomsday and MM..Food were his weakest albums.
That's weird, I feel the exact opposite way. I thought Operation: Doomsday was his strongest solo stuff, and MM Food is just stellar. I know a lot of people don't like the fact that like 1/3 the album is skit/instrumentals but the rest of the album is some of his best stuff. Give Op Doomsday another listen, because that's the album I find myself blurting random hooks from all day long. "The Finest" is like all bangers, for example.

Venemous Villian to me is sub-par just because it feels kind of stale compared to what he did right before it and right after. It's sandwiched between Madvillainy and MM Food, yet it's not even close to those pieces of work. I just feel he sort of mailed it in on Venemous Villain because of his other projects.

Born Like This is pretty much unlistenable garbage to me. Aside from Angelz and the short verses on Cellz the thing is a mess. Poor production, weak lyrics and what I see as a general shift towards lazy mainstream songwriting.
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Old 04-08-2010, 05:54 PM   #363 (permalink)
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I just didn't really care for Dooms voice in Operation Doomsday. I don't know if he just got better at producing himself, or if it changed, but it just sounds grating. I do really like "who you think i am" though.

MM..Food i didn't care for the beats at all, except "potholderz". I can't articulate why. I actually prefer MM..leftovers. MM..Food starts off strong, but after the first couple tracks it just kinda flat lines until hitting "Kookies" which is arguably his funniest song.

I might just have generic taste in beats, but i really liked Born Like this. Jake One, J Dilla, Madlib, i felt like they all did a solid job, it was more Dooms own beats that were mediocre. Though, now that i think about it, a lot of those beats were recycled from other albums.
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:38 PM   #364 (permalink)
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I'm noticing a troubling lack of Public Enemy ITT. Probably the most influential rap group ever, easily some of the greatest lyrics and probably the best sampling in any hip-hop band ever, and Terminator X can tear it up.

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Old 04-11-2010, 03:38 AM   #365 (permalink)
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I have to say KRS-One, because all he had musically was a
Boom! Boom!
and a duh-duh-duh-duh
the rest was all vocals
plus I still laugh about him wearing one and a half pair of pants

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MF Doom puts out a lot of cool stuff. I might have to go with him.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:31 PM   #367 (permalink)
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Why the venomous villiam dislike?

Also, Born Like this had some of Doom's best lyricsm.

Listen to Cellz, Batty Boyz, or Gazzillionear.

Personally i feel like Operation Doomsday and MM..Food were his weakest albums.
I agree with most of that statement, however, I think Venomous Villain was pretty weak. The production on that album may have been good, but it lacked the vision that the first album had (Vaudeville Villain). As for my favorite, you already know that its Madvillainy.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:46 PM   #368 (permalink)
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I agree that the production on the album seemed kinda.. unfocused.

But "Titty Fat" is superb. A lot of Dooms beats are pretty minimalist, but at least under VV he seems to add more layers.
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Old 04-12-2010, 06:41 PM   #369 (permalink)
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Titty Fat is indeed quite good, but it is really the only good song on the album, and at that, it is sort of the same as the untitled hidden track of VV1.
What about Raedawn, i think that while the beat doesn't really go anywhere, it has a certain robot groove about it that is hard to resist.
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Old 04-17-2010, 12:03 AM   #370 (permalink)
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there are so many great rappers out there. and some of them don't get too much attention outside of their core fanbase which isn't necessarily a bad thing. when something remains small and obscured from the masses, it remains pure.

Big Daddy Kane is still giving me goosebumps even after guys like the GZA, Raekwon and Eminem made their noise in the 90s. Ice T says that he will put Kane up against any rapper of any era, and he will "toss the sauce across to the boss, no remorse, you lost, with force, I cause a holocaust"
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