Music Banter's Essential Collections Discussion (electronic, alternative, blues, funk)

iksosept · 02-02-2009, 06:56 PM

^but that would make a change in the point system necessary, otherwise someone from Switzland would post 10 records, and someone from Korea maybe 6 and someone from Uganda 5, and then there would be those from Switzerland with 10,9,8 and 7 points in the list, therefore over-representing one country.
Or it doesn't even have to be their own country, but nevertheless, the point system only makes sense if people are expected to somehow have a common denominator

I like the idea, but it doesn't really fit the concept. We could make a special edition with world music, containing one chosen regional/world music album by each who wants to contribute (there won't be that many either.. I guess)

one more thing in general:
is it possible to make the posts of the others invisible?
There could be people, who would normally put one certain album on, say #4, but after reading through previous posts and realizing that their #1,#2 and #3 albums most certainly already made the list, put their #4 on the number 1 spot, so that it gets the expected missing points to also make the list. Or even put a different record by the same artist on there (one that's been given points before), just so that this artists makes the list. It would be an advantage for late-posters in comparison to those who posted early and didn't know how many points their favorite records need eventually.
Just saying..

iksosept · 02-02-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Tried to do this earlier myself, people volunteered, but when it came to actually writing something nobody gave two shits about it.

Best of luck to you jackhammer.

Haven't been on here then, but it sounds different.
This time everyone would at first only have to name the records, and everyone likes doing that.
then there'd be the sticky topic with the records on it, and that already is great imo.
and time after time the reviews would come, with no hurry at all.
(if I got the idea right)

Bulldog · 02-02-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by iksosept

^but that would make a change in the point system necessary, otherwise someone from Switzland would post 10 records, and someone from Korea maybe 6 and someone from Uganda 5, and then there would be those from Switzerland with 10,9,8 and 7 points in the list, therefore over-representing one country.
Or it doesn't even have to be their own country, but nevertheless, the point system only makes sense if people are expected to somehow have a common denominator

I like the idea, but it doesn't really fit the concept. We could make a special edition with world music, containing one chosen regional/world music album by each who wants to contribute (there won't be that many either.. I guess)

I see your point, but I can't see threads dedicated to, for example, Arabic, west African or Indonesian music getting that many lists submitted to it. If we use world music as an umbrella term for non-western music (which, in truth, journos do all the time) I reckon we could get some interesting submissions.

At the end of the day it's probably not really worth it. World music is far too broad a term for this kind of idea. I'm just saying it'd at least be interesting (educational as well) to see what people come up with, if there are even that many submissions in the first place.

jackhammer · 02-03-2009, 05:54 AM

There should definitely be lists for Blues, Prog Rock and there will be some sort of umbrella for World music. Possibly an African music thread as that generally has it's own distinct sound and would be the most beneficial.

RadioWunderbar · 02-03-2009, 08:20 AM

I don't think these genres have been mentioned yet: Garage, Krautrock, proto-punk and post punk.

This would be good for me because I need to work on the basics.

jackhammer · 02-03-2009, 08:30 AM

Post Punk will definitely have it's own category. Krautrock will probably be included in psychedelic. Garage and Proto Punk could ostensibly be the same category.

phantom133pz · 02-03-2009, 09:05 AM

OK so here's an idea. There's already an education thread under each genre's forum. They have the main subgenres already listed. Why not start a thread to determine the top 10 in each subgenre using the genres already listed under the education threads, and then post the top 10 there as well? This would at least work for punk, rock, metal, reggae, ska, indie, and alternative. As for the others, I don't know that pop, soul, funk, country, and folk really need to be broken down (I know there's subgenres in some of these but I'm not sure there's enough interest on mb for them to be broken down further). Electronica and jazz would need to be split up, and maybe blues I've never been a big fan so I don't know if there are a lot of blues subgenres. So whaddya think?

jackhammer · 02-03-2009, 10:10 AM

I would'nt want to go down the Jazz sub genre route. There simply isn't enough fans on here to warrant it. Electronica SHOULD be split up but again, are there enough fans on to create a top 10 Drum and Bass list for example?

phantom133pz · 02-03-2009, 10:50 AM

Haha yes I know, I'm well aware but also a bit biased because I somewhat recently discovered electronica but don't like normal techno like, for example, tiesto... But I really like this idea and think it should be done. Hopefully there will be enough participation this time around (I wasn't here last time) to actually get some essential collections. Let's do it!

iksosept · 02-05-2009, 08:03 AM

so, what now?

:brings the defibrillator:

-Heavy Metal 70's
-Heavy Metal 80's
-Heavy Metal 90's
-Heavy Metal 00's

-Garage / Proto-Punk

-Pre 1990 Punk
-Post 1990 Punk

-Alternative 80's
-Alternative 90's
-Alternative 00's

-Post Punk
-New Wave (?)

-Shoe Gaze

-Brit Pop

-Progressive Rock / Art Rock

-Psychedelic / Krautrock

-Rock n Roll / Rockabilly

-Hard Rock

-Classic Rock

-Modern Rock / Nu Metal / Rap Rock

-Noise Rock

-Grunge / Post-Grunge

-Blues

-Funk

-Soul / Rhythm'n'Blues

-Pop (including contemporary R'n'B) Pre1995
-Pop (including contemporary R'n'B, Neo Soul) Post1995

-Classical (Composers instead of Albums)

-Jazz

-Electronica pre2000
-Electronica post2000

-Hip Hop pre1995
-Hip Hop post1995

-Reggae

-Ska

-Folk / Folk Rock

-World Music (?)

what do you think?

02-02-2009, 06:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
iksosept Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104	^but that would make a change in the point system necessary, otherwise someone from Switzland would post 10 records, and someone from Korea maybe 6 and someone from Uganda 5, and then there would be those from Switzerland with 10,9,8 and 7 points in the list, therefore over-representing one country. Or it doesn't even have to be their own country, but nevertheless, the point system only makes sense if people are expected to somehow have a common denominator I like the idea, but it doesn't really fit the concept. We could make a special edition with world music, containing one chosen regional/world music album by each who wants to contribute (there won't be that many either.. I guess) one more thing in general: is it possible to make the posts of the others invisible? There could be people, who would normally put one certain album on, say #4, but after reading through previous posts and realizing that their #1,#2 and #3 albums most certainly already made the list, put their #4 on the number 1 spot, so that it gets the expected missing points to also make the list. Or even put a different record by the same artist on there (one that's been given points before), just so that this artists makes the list. It would be an advantage for late-posters in comparison to those who posted early and didn't know how many points their favorite records need eventually. Just saying.. Last edited by iksosept; 02-02-2009 at 07:06 PM.

02-03-2009, 05:54 AM	#24 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	There should definitely be lists for Blues, Prog Rock and there will be some sort of umbrella for World music. Possibly an African music thread as that generally has it's own distinct sound and would be the most beneficial. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

02-03-2009, 08:20 AM	#25 (permalink)
RadioWunderbar Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 18	I don't think these genres have been mentioned yet: Garage, Krautrock, proto-punk and post punk. This would be good for me because I need to work on the basics. __________________ I am a cliche.

02-03-2009, 08:30 AM	#26 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Post Punk will definitely have it's own category. Krautrock will probably be included in psychedelic. Garage and Proto Punk could ostensibly be the same category. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

02-03-2009, 10:10 AM	#28 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I would'nt want to go down the Jazz sub genre route. There simply isn't enough fans on here to warrant it. Electronica SHOULD be split up but again, are there enough fans on to create a top 10 Drum and Bass list for example? __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

02-03-2009, 09:05 AM	#27 (permalink)
phantom133pz Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 73	OK so here's an idea. There's already an education thread under each genre's forum. They have the main subgenres already listed. Why not start a thread to determine the top 10 in each subgenre using the genres already listed under the education threads, and then post the top 10 there as well? This would at least work for punk, rock, metal, reggae, ska, indie, and alternative. As for the others, I don't know that pop, soul, funk, country, and folk really need to be broken down (I know there's subgenres in some of these but I'm not sure there's enough interest on mb for them to be broken down further). Electronica and jazz would need to be split up, and maybe blues I've never been a big fan so I don't know if there are a lot of blues subgenres. So whaddya think?

02-03-2009, 10:50 AM	#29 (permalink)
phantom133pz Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 73	Haha yes I know, I'm well aware but also a bit biased because I somewhat recently discovered electronica but don't like normal techno like, for example, tiesto... But I really like this idea and think it should be done. Hopefully there will be enough participation this time around (I wasn't here last time) to actually get some essential collections. Let's do it!

02-05-2009, 08:03 AM	#30 (permalink)
iksosept Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 104	so, what now? :brings the defibrillator: -Heavy Metal 70's -Heavy Metal 80's -Heavy Metal 90's -Heavy Metal 00's -Garage / Proto-Punk -Pre 1990 Punk -Post 1990 Punk -Alternative 80's -Alternative 90's -Alternative 00's -Post Punk -New Wave (?) -Shoe Gaze -Brit Pop -Progressive Rock / Art Rock -Psychedelic / Krautrock -Rock n Roll / Rockabilly -Hard Rock -Classic Rock -Modern Rock / Nu Metal / Rap Rock -Noise Rock -Grunge / Post-Grunge -Blues -Funk -Soul / Rhythm'n'Blues -Pop (including contemporary R'n'B) Pre1995 -Pop (including contemporary R'n'B, Neo Soul) Post1995 -Classical (Composers instead of Albums) -Jazz -Electronica pre2000 -Electronica post2000 -Hip Hop pre1995 -Hip Hop post1995 -Reggae -Ska -Folk / Folk Rock -World Music (?) what do you think?