Five Reasons No Wave Pisses over Post-Punk (lyrics, country, pop)

lucifer_sam · 01-18-2009, 04:56 PM

1. No wave lyrics explored deep philosophical issues, unlike the tripe that predominated in post-punk at the time. I'll take a monologue about confrontation over M. Smith's ruses about wherever the obligatory ******s were.

2. Texture over melody. No wave artists used their instruments to invoke a deeper sonic experience. More preferable to the bland (and often vain) attempts at capturing kosmiche musik's drive.

3. There's no such thing as bad no wave music. Just varying shades of nihilism.

4. More imagination was poured into records produced during the no-wave movement than the rest of the lot of the seventies and eighties.

5. Nowhere else in music history has there been as diverse a smattering of artists belonging to the same movement as there were with no-wave: James Chance & the Contortions , Suicide , Glenn Branca , the Bush Tetras , DNA , Teenage Jesus and the Jerks , Mars , Swan , etc...

I'd take this any day over Joy Division / Nick Cave / the Fall / what-fucking-ever:

Molecules · 01-18-2009, 05:06 PM

i thought Suicide pre-dated no wave by a few years? Not to mention Bush Tetras who are quite generically post-punk sounding (if we go by your definition of the term, i take it to mean more of a worldwide mindset that incorporates all manner of sounds, including no wave)...

I totally get the angle you're coming from, but I think you're attacking the music media's regurgitation of what has long since become a nice pigeonhole for skinny jean-wearing pop groups over the last decade - like Bloc Party and god knows how many other bands i don't give a sh*t to name

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-18-2009, 05:15 PM

I don't see post punk as a genre but as an era influenced directly or indirectly by punk of which I would consider no wave a part of.

**Janszoon** · 01-18-2009, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I don't see post punk as a genre but as an era influenced directly or indirectly by punk of which I would consider no wave a part of.

^Exactly this.

GravitySlips · 01-18-2009, 05:54 PM

Amusing thread.

Akira · 01-18-2009, 05:56 PM

Just what this forum needs, another 'this genre is better than this genre' thread.

swim · 01-18-2009, 05:57 PM

I always thought they went hand and hand.

interpostmlving · 01-18-2009, 06:11 PM

lol

jackhammer · 01-18-2009, 06:32 PM

Yada Yada Yada. Just buy Wires Missing Chairs and behave yourself.

mr. goth glam · 01-18-2009, 06:44 PM

I'm still waiting for someone to have enough courage to speak out against Post-Punk-Country-Hiphop-No Wave.

I mean, what the hell's that crap even about?

01-18-2009, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Five Reasons No Wave Pisses over Post-Punk 1. No wave lyrics explored deep philosophical issues, unlike the tripe that predominated in post-punk at the time. I'll take a monologue about confrontation over M. Smith's ruses about wherever the obligatory ******s were. 2. Texture over melody. No wave artists used their instruments to invoke a deeper sonic experience. More preferable to the bland (and often vain) attempts at capturing kosmiche musik's drive. 3. There's no such thing as bad no wave music. Just varying shades of nihilism. 4. More imagination was poured into records produced during the no-wave movement than the rest of the lot of the seventies and eighties. 5. Nowhere else in music history has there been as diverse a smattering of artists belonging to the same movement as there were with no-wave: James Chance & the Contortions , Suicide , Glenn Branca , the Bush Tetras , DNA , Teenage Jesus and the Jerks , Mars , Swan , etc... I'd take this any day over Joy Division / Nick Cave / the Fall / what-fucking-ever: __________________ first.am

01-18-2009, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Molecules daddy don't Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: the Wastes Posts: 2,577	i thought Suicide pre-dated no wave by a few years? Not to mention Bush Tetras who are quite generically post-punk sounding (if we go by your definition of the term, i take it to mean more of a worldwide mindset that incorporates all manner of sounds, including no wave)... I totally get the angle you're coming from, but I think you're attacking the music media's regurgitation of what has long since become a nice pigeonhole for skinny jean-wearing pop groups over the last decade - like Bloc Party and god knows how many other bands i don't give a sh*t to name __________________ [SIZE="1"]Eff em tumble her

01-18-2009, 05:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don't see post punk as a genre but as an era influenced directly or indirectly by punk of which I would consider no wave a part of. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	I always thought they went hand and hand. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

01-18-2009, 06:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Yada Yada Yada. Just buy Wires Missing Chairs and behave yourself. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-18-2009, 05:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	Amusing thread.

01-18-2009, 06:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
interpostmlving Groupie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1	lol

01-18-2009, 06:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
mr. goth glam Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Waverly, VA. Posts: 406	I'm still waiting for someone to have enough courage to speak out against Post-Punk-Country-Hiphop-No Wave. I mean, what the hell's that crap even about? __________________